Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
MM was pressuring me into shooting Cape over lynching POD. Knowing now that MM was scum and Cape was town does it not look like potential buddy play?
I mean the problem is I'm trying but no one seems to want to. It's just you and me in thread and scumbot was here but seems to havve nothing to say regardless. POD shot off immediately and is saying he's going to shoot Frink in 40m now so there's really no point imo in trying to actually play since no one else seems to want to.
Well to be blunt I did not town read you and I would have felt shooting was the correct action for a town player given we were effectively heading towards a certain loss without a hero shot. Did you honestly have a scum read on MM? I do not recall you saying any hint of suspecting him prior to a "Fuck it, we gotta get lucky" shot.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Were you being serious this whole time, Miz?
it's just the first page of him voting POD and kinda saying that was a bad play after I did, and then afterwards "Threatening" to shoot Scumbot after scumbot said "these two people are wolves" and then didn't shoot them even tho they're right infront of him. Not sure if MM was trying to align cape and scumbot though because i don't see that.
Like, Yeah? I'm playing the game?
O-M-G!
The way I see the mech crunch on this is with 4v1 a kill has a 20% chance. Thats great odds- of shooting a townie. We get 2 shots and a lynch for 60% chance- but with the caveat that if the 40% shots fail 1/3 of the vote falls on a scum player putting you in a situation to make a kingmaker play for 50/50 chance of the win.
Alternatively 36 hours of conversation and two straight up lynches is a lot of time to solve and make a more educated decision if people just stop shooting and start trying to solve the game. I feel like we have a much better chance at winning if we just slow down and talk.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
literally so confused by scumbot rn
But it's irrelevant without frink showing up.
The point is it's gonna be either won or 3/1 soon because POD is going to shoot and he's probably not going to be stopped. so there's really no point in pretending we have more options than we do.
gotta be honest thought he was pinging you about the fact that mm's dead but ok
that works too
The second its 1v1 the town looses. The 1v1 would be forced the moment its 3p. So 'if' its scumbot this would mean I die to frickles, frinckles dies to POD, then its 3v1 with a lynch stack on scumbot or POD. Pick wrong and the game is over without you getting a chance to shoot at all. Or if your lynching POD a last second vote swap to you with a /detonate would kill POD and have the lynch fall on you.
Going to 3p in this setup is a terrible play imo specifically because even if you 'would' win if the game did not end it does end. You having a shot with the mafia helpless in your sights just does not matter. We still loose.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Just take a moment to consider a 3p of you, POD and Scumbot.
If Scumbot's cooldown comes up and he is the wolf he shoots for the insta win.
If You lynch Scumbot and he is not the scum POD insta wins.
Its a 50/50 with a time crunch and one of the two players who you can barely read.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Helz, who do you think is the scum between me, POD and Miz?
I get it now that's annoying
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Miz is absolutely confirmed town imo. Them killing a scum teammate in that gamestate would be borderline gamethrowing.
POD I want to go through MM's interaction more when I am less focused on interacting while people are active and multi-tasking on something else. You would be my top focus as of right now. I had good feels on Cape and he was one of the few contributing players.
If I was mafia I would probably push to keep conversation dead right now. Easier to hide when you do not even need to play to do it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
To explain this emphatically clearly-
'If' Mizery was scum teamed with MM and you just killed Cape the game was at 4v2.
POD was gona kill Frinckles making it a 3v2 where all 3 town would have to vote correctly to win.
Not only that but MM would have his shot so he could just kill you tieing it up at 2v2 for a mafia win.
In a world where MM was teamed with Mizery I would call Mizery killing MM gamethrowing. They should be unquestionable imo.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I came into this thread thinking that POD was wildly scummy. I mean, just why shoot someone who hadn't even posted and then he said he'll kill Frinkles for ??? He's not hunting.
I think you always kill POD here. I think he's just pretty likely to be scum here but even on the off chance that he was town you don't keep that WIFOM around.
At the end of page 1 my thoughts were that POD/Cape were scummy hence why I said.
I had the (wrong) assumption that Miz (and to a much lesser degree, MM, were just lulz pushing/arguing with me since I asked for it but Miz' admission that he was being serious now makes my nose crinkle.
b/c it wasn't the correct play to hero-shoot cape and I'm not just saying that b/c Cape flipped town. POD was incredibly scummy, even if you want to argue that his shot was just bad town play thats still the correct play.
this post is also bullshit.
Other than Helz saying that you are confirmed town, it's very possible that scum MM latched onto your pushing me to shoot Cape.
here you continue to just to get me to shoot Cape.
@scumbot5679
Do you disagree with my reasoning that Mizery is basically confirmed town here? I do not understand why you are pushing the only player who has killed a Mafia.
Spoiler : Reasoning :
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I'm not really pushing him, I just dislike how he was pushing for me to kill Cape and I'm just a bit annoyed with him overall.
I still think its POD.
I get where Miz is coming from with thinking that POD is town since scum voted for him and I've used that same logic to varying degrees of success but if POD isn't scum and Miz isn't then that means you or Frinkles is.
I mean, maybe it is just Frinkles and we are busy arguing amongst ourselves.
i solved the game
/detonate
frinckles is dead
the game continues because you-know-what
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
oh and I have a public clarification to a question I was given, and this publication was intentionally delayed by an undisclosed amount of time
nights (after night 0) are effectively breaks, so if you have 12 hours of cool-down left once night hits, you'll still have 12 hours of coool-down left once night ends (it'll basically "pause" at night)
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
@MartinGG99
Can the mafia pick which player is behind which if they decide to position themselves behind etchother?
Can the mafia pick which town players they are behind if they pick to be behind townies?
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Can we finally kill the trolling scum?
Per the wording in OP:
It would not be possible to randomize things for the mafia if they both elected to have detonators against the town and got to pick who. Hence, they cannot elect who is their detonator target outside of alignment. Mafia can decide which one is holding the detonator against the other, however, since fundamentally the game only allows one mafia to have the chance of detonating the other without just winning first.Ordering to be randomly determined at SoD1, depending on if the Mafia Goons decide if they want to be seated behind (i.e. be able to /detonate to kill) a mafia or town.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
my rng is bad
i assume scumbot is killing me no matter what.
when that does happen, here are scenarios:
if Helz is town, they have to detonate scum mizery before mizery kill town scumbot 1 hour later.
If helz is town and think scumbot is scum, helz have to let mizery kill scumbot and holster.
If Mizery is town, and think Helz is scum, they need to convince scumbot to not shoot until Mizery 24 hours is up.
If Mizery is town and think scumbot is scum, Mizery just gotta convince helz to holster and end the game.
If scumbot is town and think Helz is mafia, then u just gotta pray he isnt because killing me lose for the town.
If scumbot is town and think Mizery is mafia, then make sure to kill me asap so helz have 1 hour to kill Mizery
anyway, thats all, game is kinda solved, rest is up to you guys
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.