About scum losing control of the votes: Bowser was lynched by 8 players. It's rather obvious they had lost control (if they ever had it before). As for the "scum never control votes", hard disagree. Manipulating townies into voting with you is controlling the votes. That didn't happen much at EoD (there cannot be 8 bussers on the train lol).
@Mike , just so we're clear, i never seriously thought u were a neutral. my vote on you was meant as a reaction test, and it yielded a lot of useful info. i've a list of examples to prove this:
1. zone said he thought you were a neutral (#1069, #1093, #1098).
2. gyr's response to u scumreading me was interesting:
i think gyrlander sounded too passive to be town here. i remember gyr questioning mike before this post, so by now i would've expected him to scumread mike. this post isn't enough for me to lock him as scum, but i'll keep an eye on him.
Spoiler : :
3. dm noticed something wrong with gyr's post too (#932), but i'm not entirely sure if i should give dm townpoints for this. dm might've defended mike's slot just to gain town cred, and he's still lurking too much. in a setup with at least one confirmed alignment-checker, scum will try to lay low. zone's lynch proves this. he posted 47 times, which is almost twice as much as dark magician's 25 posts, but significantly less than mm, who is the next highest poster with 72 posts.
4. bake was the first to claim that u were neutral, and his persistence in lynching u yesterday looked almost too scummy for scum!baker to pull off. more on bake later.
5. your reaction to my push on you is similar to how i'd react if someone pushed me as town. +townpoints for you. i haven't locked you as town yet for one reason, but more on that later.
6. kenny and martin had a weird argument over you that i haven't bothered to analyze. i think their interaction was TvT, but it looked so complicated that i'll probably never articulate my gut feeling about it.
Ugh, ISOing Renegade is painful lol, the Bruno-Renegade saga is long...
Does that really come from SvS interactions? @FrostByte
Going to sleep, see you tomorrow.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
@Dark Magician Although I had similar views, I explained them. You didn't really do that. Can you clarify a bit on this, please?
Also, I didn't receive any night feedback in case anyone was curious.
I play way too much Pokemon.
@theo nceko and @Marshmallow Marshall are koopa
-vote marshmallow marshall
@Renegade sorry bud. no hard feelings. lets win this game.
If they were both scum he'd be hyper aware of interactions between his self and other scum, so having this thought could definitely be indicative of svs
If you're ISOing Renegade, look at all the potential interactions with Zone he specifically avoided. He knew he had avoided those interactions, which is why he took the bait to hard disagree in big letters when I suggested he had tied himself to Zone.
He was very aware of and confident in the fact that he hadn't tied himself to Zone because he put effort into not doing so.
(Followed the link from Ceko's wall on Mike)
When I have time, I'll review Zone's ISO, because there are interesting things to get out of there. Tbh, seeing this and this:
I don't see why @theoneceko doesn't towncore Mike at this point: this is hard evidence of Zone trying to take Mike down without getting his hands too dirty (and letting Ceko's get dirty instead). Mike is now towncore for me.
Renegade admitted he townread Bruno and then went on to vote him and thunderdome anyway. He's scum or gamethrowing town. Either way, he's not good to have around.
What are you talking about? He made some specific observations and I asked specific, probing questions. That isn't tunneling. Why are you defending MM so hard right now?
I've been contributing plenty. One could ask where this "weird tunneling" is coming from. Are you trying to tunnel me and projecting?
love how hard these two are defending themselves. obvious scum are obvious
is frost ur teammate? @Bruno
just read the last 50 posts if the rest of you don't understand. there's a chance that bruno might've not read or thought about the setup and just charged in as powerwolf play. i can honestly see him doing this... for uh, reasons lol. it's unlikely, but still something to consider.
mm mirrored my thought processes at times BEFORE i posted them on the thread. part of me wonders if MM is a LHF (last time he was town, he got close to being lynched). if i rly was koopa, there's no way i would interact with mm like this. scum!ceko plays like a scared buWunny.
ugh. my new playstyle allows me to get better reads, but it comes at the cost of me getting less townread.
this is a cringe ass fucking post. youre a dumb faggot. shut the fuck up, you dont get better reads. clearly. and you are not getting townread because YOURE SCUM. go FUCK YOURSELF.
-vote theoneceko
marshmallow can wait. he at least shied away when i called him out. but ur faggot ass just jumped to #1
i had zoneq_11 pinned literally from day one. i was wrong about gyr n renegade, but i know for sure about you, faggot
right. like i explained with zone. suck my fuckin dick, i know what i know and i know ceko is scum. you can either join the train or be confirmed 3rd scum when he flips red. quite simple. dont tell me how to speak. this is how i fuckin communicate. so stop discriminating you crusty dick, ugly ass, scrawny ass weak ass excuse of a kappa
remember how i scumread zone at the beginning of day 1 too? and how later, i said:
zone got lynched at end of day 1. idk if u factored this yet into ur scumread of me, but i wasn't present to vote zone bc banana turned the clock back without me knowing. u can also read the spoiler in my wall, if u haven't already, to confirm this.
MM you are incredible, refused to acknowledge zone and ceko's scummy stance d1 and still do so
frankly i dont give a singular fuck what you have to say. you're scum. eat my shit.i explicitly stated zone was scum. you were too pussy to do that, instead u just said Me AnD bRuNo mInDmElDeD uWu like a faggot. took a partial stance and didnt say jack shit. you were just trying to pocket me. go fuck yourself.
Your interventions against me are weird. The post where you attacked my statement that we should follow Kenny's LW literally took an explaination, colored it differently from what it was explaining, and then made both the explaination and the explained statement look random and based on nothing. Although I get I'm biased because I'm the one being pushed, this is a bad push.