Can I get an outside opinion on distorted ?
Am I reading this slot reasonably or am I just bad?
I'm going to go ahead and say that at this point, I am most likely only going to support a no lynch or a lynch on Distorted since Distorted seems to be the only player who has been "prepped" enough to have a significant enough amount of information on, even if some of the reasons behind the earlier pressure is highly dubious. Ideally, I would have been on earlier in the day to try and question more people. However, due to the lack of time that I have had, this has been my first chance to fully read through the game thread. I appologize for my inactivity and I will most likely need to wait until day 2 before I can make anything that comprehensive.
The role card thing seems to have taken up a large part of the day, and the results that came from all appear to be very lacking
1) The entire alignment thing from people reading/interpreting their roles appears like a giant dead end. Some people seemed to have misinterpreted their roles by thinking that town and mage's guild are separate factions. When they referenced this, it created a significant amount of confusion. For the most part, it looks like genuine misunderstandings and not anything that useful.
2) Light claimed that his role card was colored, then got called out on it because no one else seems to be colored. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post, I think it's unlikely that scum received colored role cards while town didn't and I highly doubt that scum wouldn't take the time to think through something like this. I town read his early posts and unless something more compelling comes up, I won't be supporting his lynch today. It's possible that he is scum who fucked up spectacularly, but I don't see it as likely.
3) Since both Blink and Distorted are claiming that they were told of their roles off site, chances are that they are both telling the truth. If one dies and flips scum, the possiblity that they are both lying can be reopened. As such, earlier votes on Distorted because they didn't believe his claim about his role card seem baseless.
Even though the role card thing doesn't seem to have gone anywhere, there are still some scummy aspects to Distorted. First of all, despite there being fairly significant posts very early on in the day (Light, Mike, Damus), he still went ahead with shitposting and gave this reason...
While this reasoning does seem somewhat plausible, the fact that he didn't feel any need to comment on the earlier posts does create the sense that he wasn't actually that interested in scumhunting early on, which is of course scummy.
Additionally, while Distorted was getting pressure he seemed very willing to make passive deflection posts where he hinted at the potential scuminess. A few examples...
I'm going to check Distorted's past games for this type of behaviour, but this type of deflection playstyle seems suspect. Also, I used ctrl f and "lol" when looking for the type of posts that I'm talking about.
@Distorted Care to comment on what I just said?
The 9:4 scum ratio does give town a significant enough numbers advantage that a potential mislynch won't compromise the numbers advantage. However, we don't know what the KPN is going to be, so it's impossible to know how quickly we are going to lose that numbers advantage. Additionally, I am concerned that if there is a TPR/citizen hierarchy, the TPRs might not know how important they are yet, and the potential of lynching a player who would later turn out to be an important TPR (and therefore can't effectively claim) would of course be devastating, which is why I'm still happy with not lynching today. I'll also mention that while it is super easy for scum to do just to appear more towny, Distorted did unvote on skipping when I said that I needed more time to go through the game thread despite being in one of the more precarious situations, which does give me a little bit of doubt about his scumminess.
@blinkskater Earlier you said this...
To clarify, were you only told about your role on discord, or did you also receive a role card on site?
@Damus_Graves I'm not sure if I just missed it, but where was the exact post that you explicitly stated your reasons for initially putting Rumox down as lock town?
Sometimes Even A Single Word Can Change Your Opinion Of A Person @Marshmallow Marshall .. Words And Phrases Can Change Your View Point In But A Moment..
UH, EXCUSE ME? Bloodthirsty syntax lol? Also, the not asking why a read is a read is literally false, every time I asked for reads I asked for explainations, I asked why you were locktownreading Rumox (And still do because you apparently re-locked him...); this looks like you're pulling this bullshit to get a reaction out of me, am I mistaken?
Blink: Another reserve spot. ~~ Pressure target if we were lynching? Probably Blinkskater. ~~ ... what?
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Just my take on Kenny: After playing with him for some games, he's really playing like his town self right now. He has also been very useful because of his fight against Distorted, it has exposed Disto pretty well.
I'd be careful with Eclipse. He has played before, I believe, at least some form of Mafia. I like him, though, he gave reads, has a bit of contribution... But I wouldn't go further than slight town.
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Last thing: I'll give you the award of the first guy who scumreads me and gives a potential scum team that includes me that actually makes a little bit of sense, lol. It sort of confirms my feeling that you're scumhunting while being very weird and not explaining that much your stuff (Rumox read being the summum lol). So, as weird as it is, and even if there are some strange things with the post I'm quoting (which I pointed out in the first lines), your scum team, at the point of the game when you posted this, is granting you a ticket for my town core.
While I would usually wait and see how people would respond to something like this, I'm going to be away for quite a few hours, so I'll just deal with it now.
The logic here seems incredibly selective. Distorted might have said that in his most recent game and turned out to be scum, but that would be because he just happened to BE scum in his most recent game.Originally Posted by Distorted... from SC2 where Distorted was town... which Light participated in
I think that there are valid reasons to scum read Distorted, but this is either lazy or intentionally misleading.
It would probably just NOT be dealt with because Light always does that. He has some strange quirks that make him valuable, but he very, very often says things that make absolutely no sense in FM. Although I scumread him, this is not a thing on which you should base your reads.
NOPE YOU DIDN'T REPLY, REACT OR ANYTHING. @Light_Yagami REPLY. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post796108 I am addressing you strongly there, and you don't even talk about it, you straight up ignore it and reply to other stuff.
@rumox Can you quote me what you want me to read, or at least tell me on which page it is, please? I really didn't see anything I should reply to that much.
@Auckmid
I am reading Rumox as lock town for:
town Mindset in his posts
Soft Claiming his role
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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@Mike
Please explain more. I do not understand exactly
It seems that you are suggesting that I am painting distorteds words incorrectly? Is that what you are saying ?
I didn't insult your intelligence, but your posts, because they are insult-worthy. I'm not saying you're dumb, but that your CASE is, because it really is, and I feel like you're using this to avoid dealing with your own bullshit.
In case it wasn't clear, although I believe I made it clear that I was attacking the posts, there was no personal attack meant in this, sorry if it appeared as such.
It Did Appear That Way.. Maybe You Could Tone Down Ur Aggression Slightly.. I Think We Are All A Bit frustrated.. With How Day 1 Has Been Going.. And Thats Why My Posts Were Written The Way They Are.. Out Of My Own Frustration Of Not Knowing What My Role Actually Does.. If Anything As I Said Many Times.. Now I Think We Might Be Getting Somewhere With The Distorted Thing.. Im Gonna Play It By Ear ATM.. Im Basically Only Suggesting A Skip Because I Wanna Know What Is Currently Unknown To Me...
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And Im Sure The Answers To My Questions.. Will Make Me Want To Ask Many More Questions..
I'm still content with lynching the guy who said his role was green, when i know that to be a lie.
I do think thats the bes thing we've got
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Distorted is a bad lynch, and is being scumpainted.
Have fun with that. I already have a few ideas on scum yeams. Distorted flipping town will just confirm that.
I will not vote him.
Damus really took Distorted trying to pressure #2, and painted it was him trying to start a train on him. That's called manipulation of the narrative.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Damus_Graves and Distorted are definitely NOT w/w which I conclude from them tunnelling on each other
You know, @blinkskater , I'd really like you to explain what scum-motivations you see behind fake claiming a colored role card. Everyone who is part of the skwirl discord got his card through pm on there, I don't think colors are even possible. Yagami knows as much. Why would scum intentionally fake a slip?
What is wrong with you.
I'm saying yagami made a mistake, he accidently scum slipped.
The fact that you are asking me why he would intentionally fakr a slip is a complete misunderstanding of whats going on or its a scum manipulation of the narraitve.
YAGAMI DIDNT FAKE CLAIM A COLORD ROLE. HE ACCIDENTALLY SCUM SLIPPED AND IS TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
@blinkskater
I am painting distorted? That seems to be what you are stating.
Please explain. Because distorted literally asked for more votes on numbertwo. There is literally less than 24 hrs till end of day. Distorted literaly said chop choo on his vote for numbertwo.
I can see you have different opinions than me and I would like to hear them.
He originally said he did.
He then said he didn't.
Thats a direct contridiction. Which would be an actual scumslip. The color is a slip.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
@Damus_Graves @Marshmallow Marshall @Mike
I Think Im Starting To See A Blink And Distorted Team Forming..