SC2 MAFIA 2.0 blinkstyle.

[Damus_Graves]

@naz hey Luna got replaced so you gotta do something with your vote cause it’s currently on her

[Mike]

True But Im Not Gonna Jump On His Train Just Yet.. Because I Believe Its Completely Possible Glip Is GF.. And He Deliberately Pointed Out DM As Scum Team Mate.. And Tried To Throw Mike Under The Bus For A Past Game..

Glip has to be Jester I mean come on. Day 1 try to get lyched even at L2 he continues to get lynched., Today Glip logs on sees him get to L3 and reads but not posts. This is all Jester Moves. Arson is a safer lynch at this time.

Light and Arson scum team ??? am i crazy or does anyone else think it is possible?

[Damus_Graves]

I am
Saying it over and over because you keep trying to change the narrative to me refusing to vote Glip. That is not the case

[Mike]

Glip (3 [L-4]):
Light_Yagami, Arsonist, Scvmurderer
Arsonist (4 [L-3]):
Unknown1234, Mike, Numbertwo, Damus_Graves
Damus_Graves (1 [L-6]):
Distorted
LunaMayGraves (1 [L-6]):
naz

Scv, Arson Light scum team?????

[naz]

-vote light_yagami

luna has been replaced

[AIVION]

Glip has to be Jester I mean come on. Day 1 try to get lyched even at L2 he continues to get lynched., Today Glip logs on sees him get to L3 and reads but not posts. This is all Jester Moves. Arson is a safer lynch at this time.

Light and Arson scum team ??? am i crazy or does anyone else think it is possible?

It's possible... But if Glip is Jester.. Then SCV Automatically cannot be Amnesiac as the Neutral Any is Amnesiac, which means neutral any would be jester instead...

I feel like at least SCV or Glip is the neutral... (Or, Glip is really godfather with what I said earlier).

As of now though, I do agree that if we suspect Arsonist as mafia, then he's the better lynch.

[Light_Yagami]

Hmm, he has said solid reasons as to why he's voting Arsonist at the moment though..

And I Have Solid Reasons As To Why Im Voting Glip..

[AIVION]

And I Have Solid Reasons As To Why Im Voting Glip..

Hmm. Well, would you actually be willing to Vote Arsonist if we decided fully on him being the lynch today?

Yes or no.

[Mike]

Hmm. Well, would you actually be willing to Vote Arsonist if we decided fully on him being the lynch today?

Yes or no.

unknown can you buss me tonight but not say who with that way I don't get Roleblocked again. I will not say who I am guarding also. maybe we can get lucky and I kill a Mafia. Of course I would be dead also.

[Light_Yagami]

Hmm. Well, would you actually be willing to Vote Arsonist if we decided fully on him being the lynch today?

Yes or no.

I Already Stated Im Willing To Move My Vote

Ill Hammer If Required.. I Reserve That Right..

[Mike]

@Everyone Do you think Blink would put both a Doc and BG in this save?

[Light_Yagami]

I Do.. Honestly It Makes Sense..

[AIVION]

@Everyone Do you think Blink would put both a Doc and BG in this save?

As a host, I would with the possibility of 2 NK's (NK and Mafia).

Can't speak on behalf of Blink though, as this is his first game as a host xD

[AIVION]

unknown can you buss me tonight but not say who with that way I don't get Roleblocked again. I will not say who I am guarding also. maybe we can get lucky and I kill a Mafia. Of course I would be dead also.

I can get behind this, as this is a nice play to confuse the Consort/Mafia NK (I am hoping we nail the Consort today though..)

Since I am a claimed Investigative role, the Consort is my biggest cripple.

[Light_Yagami]

Why Doesnt Anyone Ever Listen To Me Day 1?

[Mike]

Well I will say consort is confirmed as we did not have any Escorts fess up.

[AIVION]

Why Doesnt Anyone Ever Listen To Me Day 1?

Explain?

[AIVION]

Well I will say consort is confirmed as we did not have any Escorts fess up.

Exactly.

[Light_Yagami]

*Walks Into Town Like A Big Dick In A Locker Room*

I Want Doc/Lookout On Me..

Invests On @Damus_Graves , @Arsonist , @Glip

Jailor/Vigilante On @Unknown1234

And Skip

-vote skip

@AIVION Thats What I Mean

[Light_Yagami]

In The Terms Of Medical Attention I Believe Unknown Need A Doctor Or BG

[AIVION]

@AIVION Thats What I Mean

Well, I had my reasons on my Investigative check on N1...

[Mike]

Aamirus afraids to interact = SCUM
Arsonist afraids to interact = NULL

what a nice logic

This I find funny He is Doctor yet protects as he puts it his biggest scum read????

[Mike]

This I find funny He is Doctor yet protects as he puts it his biggest scum read????

I so misread that post. He was quoting MM post sorry. Ignore my post.

[Glip]

Hello again, everyone. And a special hello to you, @Firebringer , long time no see.

Sorry I've been MIA today, I came down with another bad bout of food poisoning (apparently I can't trust the nuggets from the Chick-Fil-A near me anymore... last 2 times I had them, 2 weeks apart, got food poisoning the morning after.) and been struggling to not get swallowed by work. Apparently blinkskater is short on replacements and would appreciate if I gave this game another shot. I've been skimming the day thread, but still dealing with nausea and headache so I might not have the best reading comprehension. Let me know if it seems I've missed anything important. Arsonist claims Doc, Mike claims BG and roleblocked, Unknown claims Bus Driver who swapped Aamirus with... someone else? Missed it if he said his other target.

@Mike No, I did not visit you, because I cannot visit anyone.

It appears I survived Night 1, so the mafia didn't fall for my gambit, and I might as well explain what all of that crazyness Day 1 was.

Obviously, I'm not the godfather, and Mike isn't my consort. I don't have a gamethrowing-level grudge against Mike for duping me in previous games, and no, I'm not even a jester. What happened was this:

I was just coming off of Werewolf Ball, where I put very high effort into every one of my posts, tried to do a lot of analysis and lead the town to help me solve the game, but ended up being wrong with every lynch I led. I was a Citizen, trying to get myself targeted for a night kill by being very vocal, solvy, pro-town, etc. This utterly failed, as I stayed alive until the end without ever being attacked. The game drained a lot out of me and I ended up pretty much obsessing over it over the holidays, which did not do wonders for my mental state, especially when I kept pushing mislynches. So, as I said, I decided to take a different tactic; people had seen my meta for how I usually play Citizen, and I wanted to try a different WIFOM, for day 1 at least, and see how people reacted. What I did is take a page straight out of my playbook for the mod; claim gamethrowing Godfather with a reasonable excuse, and see who's the most lynchhappy, and if they decide to push me or my target. It's a simple idea; either Mafia is confident enough to push a mislynch on me, or, seeing that I'm likely a TPR trying to make themselves mislynchable to prevent getting night killed, they night kill me anyway.

What I didn't expect, was to basically get ignored for most of that day, except for sheep votes. No one wanted to push after Mike, and curiously, no one wanted to push after me either, until closer to the end of day, and not until after Unknown and Auckmid put forth reasonable thoughts on why I should be pressured/lynched. When I was at L-2 and stuck to my Godfather claim, claiming nothing to defend myself and purely discrediting my train, I should have been lynched, but instead the votes vanished off of me and onto MM, who wildly decided to claim Executioner and got himself lynched for it. It seemed Mafia wasn't confident enough to push for my mislynch, so I expected to show up dead tonight, and my last will would have explained everything. Yet here I am. I guess I overstimated (or understimated) the Mafia's WIFOM-reading.

@Arsonist was the one who made himself look the most scummy yesterday with his half-hearted "yeah, Glip is scummy" wall that full of fact-filler and paraphrasing Auckmid; given his weak Doctor claim today (Oh yes, let's 'protect' Damus, one of the most mislynchable targets in the game, he's definitely likely to get nightkilled), he is #1 on my scumreads. I'd vote him, but seeing as we've already gotten all he has to say out of him today, I think the pressure is best applied elsewhere. Who was Unknown's second bus target? Why has he hidden it so far?

Light_Yagami is also throwing out gambits and "reads" left and right, in a manner similar to how I saw Dairy Queen play in Werewolf Ball, who ended up being the true Godfather in that game. He was also happy to join the train on me with little more justification than a "he feels scummy". I would be checking into this guy next.

Distorted is a curious matter; he refused to address me or my claims yesterday and instead stayed tunnel-visioned on Damus for the entire day, and now today as well. It's mostly NAI, but it feels like someone who had their own gambit in mind and they didn't know how to deal with my claim; it was just a distraction for them, so they ignored it. He also made a curious claim near end of day that I would be taken care of and should not be worried about, but, nothing happened to me last night, and again today he is focusing on Damus and ignoring me. It would be odd for Town to put this much effort into tunnel-visioning one person; I get the feeling he's trying to stick to his guns on a scumpainting gambit on Damus to push that mislynch through, before addressing my distraction. I'd like to see this guy take off his tunnel-vision blinders against Damus and address the game as a whole; it can only help him read the full game narrative, and help us read him. He's probably my best pressure target now to get a more complete story.

SCVMurderer was the one person who happily sheeped along with my Mike pressure, and then claimed Amnesiac. An easy claim, amnesiac, but it can be fairly NAI; neither town nor scum would want to kill someone who can bolster their ranks later. However, given how little effort SCVMurderer has put forth so far into the day chat, combined with how easily he sheeped along with me, the guy who claimed Godfather, and the fact that amnesiacs' new role is not revealed, makes me wary of him. He could just be a lazy Amnesiac, or a more malicious Neutral Evil/Killing; if I were a detective, I would have been on him last night most of all.

AIVION is also a weird read. Why claim TPR when you had nothing useful to give? Why so conveniently happened to check the 1 dead guy? It's too easy a claim, but given that we already have it, unless we see some counter claims come along, I don't see any reason to pressure him either.

Mike is always a very unreadable person to me; I was scum-leaning on him at first for immediately jumping to the "jester" conclusion on me and refusing to push the inevitable mislynch; but given that he's now counterclaiming the Town Protective slot against Arsonist, he has a better claim to the slot. The vet claim makes sense for someone trying to not get nightkilled, if a bit obvious. Regardless, we have his claim, and it does contradict Arsonist; this makes Arsonist a good lynch target for today, but as I said, pressure better applied elsewhere for now.

Naz has been curiously aggressive while remaining out of the spotlight of the game so far. She took my play yesterday as a reason to act angrily and ask to get me replaced; I'm sorry if my play disappointed you, but here I still am. Also, I have very little FM experience at all, most of which was over 5 years ago, so sorry if I'm not the saving grace of this website I should have been, in your eyes. Mostly NAI play from her; I don't know her, so she could just be an angry person in general, but in my limited FM experience it has been common for Mafia to put on a facade of righteous anger to appear towny.

Auckmid and Unknown were the two people yesterday I saw putting real thought and analysis into their posts, even if Auckmid didn't have room for much activity. They actually were putting forth real analysis and probing questions that showed effort in solving the game and pressuring those who needed it; namely me. I have to town-read these slots, simply because if I don't, then the town will probably lose based on effort and reads alone.

Numbertwo has been acting very erraticly and flippantly ever since replacing into this game. Most of his posts so far have been all over the place, or rather aggressively questioning, without providing any insight of his own. Being a replacement, I'd like to see him putting a little more effort into reading and solving the game thus far, a la Firebringer. The lack of real reasoning and effort behind Numbertwo's actions, as far as I can see, puts him high on my watchlist.

LunaMayGraves->Firebringer has had far too little activity thus far for me to get a real read on the slot. I'm excited to see what Firebringer has to bring to the table, other than fire.

Damus, now, he's still my buddy, if not my scum buddy; I'm town-reading him for his truly indignant (and somewhat self-doubting) response to people's reactions against his gambit. His gambit was similar to mine, but he didn't quite stick to it. Now it feels as if he's getting unduly pressured because Distorted is so tunnel-visioned on trying to pull apart the play when he saw weakness. Again, it doesn't make sense that Distorted is so focused on Damus alone when I was doing nearly the same thing. I want Distorted to either give something more concrete, or open his eyes to the rest of the town. Along that note:

-vote Distorted

[Auckmid]

I've spent a fair bit of time reading through the thread again (as much as can be realistically expected for a game that is already past 2000 posts) and looking at people who haven't really been in the spotlight, but lets start with the people who are in the spotlight.


Damus_Graves: The reason why I didn't want him lynched yesterday was that I had doubts about him actually being scum and wanted more time to ask him questions rather then forcing a lynch on him within the last few miniutes of the day.

I am going to ask the question though; @Damus_Graves , are you happy with how you have played this game so far?

Glip: Hasn't posted yet today, despite being at the halfway point. I explained yesterday why I found him to be scummy and I found his responses to only be meh. I can't really comment further then that. He still seems scummy and someone that I wouldn't have much issues lynching, but I would really rather he started posting. Hopefully he will just get modkilled if he doesn't.

Arsonist: Healing Damus after the events of day 1 seems really questionable. However, I don't think that necessarily indicates him as scum since scum probably would have chosen someone less questionable then Damus to fake-claim having healed. Doctor is a common role to be fake-claimed through, since it doesn't give or leave feedback unless successful.


Some of these sound a bit wishy washy, but I want a bit more time before I start pushing that hard on anyone.


I also want to ask the general question of whether the amount of role claiming that we have seen is normal for day 2 of a semi-open setup. Some of the rationale behind the claims seems very questionable, but I'm not sure if that is just because it is fairly meta to just claim ones role at this point of this type of game.

[Light_Yagami]

Well, I had my reasons on my Investigative check on N1...

Yeah Well Apparently You Should Have Listened..

[Glip]

Also holy fuck that post got long, damnit. No wonder I have a headache. I apologize for the text wall, and I'll try and keep 'em shorter from here on out, for my sake and yours.

[Glip]

I also want to ask the general question of whether the amount of role claiming that we have seen is normal for day 2 of a semi-open setup. Some of the rationale behind the claims seems very questionable, but I'm not sure if that is just because it is fairly meta to just claim ones role at this point of this type of game.

Can't say for sure as I haven't played that much recently, but it does seem that there has been much more pushing for earlier claims now than back in the day; it also seems like a lot of people here don't have too much interest in the game and are playing more freely because of it.

[Light_Yagami]

I've spent a fair bit of time reading through the thread again (as much as can be realistically expected for a game that is already past 2000 posts) and looking at people who haven't really been in the spotlight, but lets start with the people who are in the spotlight.


Damus_Graves: The reason why I didn't want him lynched yesterday was that I had doubts about him actually being scum and wanted more time to ask him questions rather then forcing a lynch on him within the last few miniutes of the day.

I am going to ask the question though; @Damus_Graves , are you happy with how you have played this game so far?

Glip: Hasn't posted yet today, despite being at the halfway point. I explained yesterday why I found him to be scummy and I found his responses to only be meh. I can't really comment further then that. He still seems scummy and someone that I wouldn't have much issues lynching, but I would really rather he started posting. Hopefully he will just get modkilled if he doesn't.

Arsonist: Healing Damus after the events of day 1 seems really questionable. However, I don't think that necessarily indicates him as scum since scum probably would have chosen someone less questionable then Damus to fake-claim having healed. Doctor is a common role to be fake-claimed through, since it doesn't give or leave feedback unless successful.


Some of these sound a bit wishy washy, but I want a bit more time before I start pushing that hard on anyone.


I also want to ask the general question of whether the amount of role claiming that we have seen is normal for day 2 of a semi-open setup. Some of the rationale behind the claims seems very questionable, but I'm not sure if that is just because it is fairly meta to just claim ones role at this point of this type of game.

Apparently There Was An Update... That Timing Though.. Man How About That..

Hello again, everyone. And a special hello to you, @Firebringer , long time no see.

Sorry I've been MIA today, I came down with another bad bout of food poisoning (apparently I can't trust the nuggets from the Chick-Fil-A near me anymore... last 2 times I had them, 2 weeks apart, got food poisoning the morning after.) and been struggling to not get swallowed by work. Apparently blinkskater is short on replacements and would appreciate if I gave this game another shot. I've been skimming the day thread, but still dealing with nausea and headache so I might not have the best reading comprehension. Let me know if it seems I've missed anything important. Arsonist claims Doc, Mike claims BG and roleblocked, Unknown claims Bus Driver who swapped Aamirus with... someone else? Missed it if he said his other target.

@Mike No, I did not visit you, because I cannot visit anyone.

It appears I survived Night 1, so the mafia didn't fall for my gambit, and I might as well explain what all of that crazyness Day 1 was.

Obviously, I'm not the godfather, and Mike isn't my consort. I don't have a gamethrowing-level grudge against Mike for duping me in previous games, and no, I'm not even a jester. What happened was this:

I was just coming off of Werewolf Ball, where I put very high effort into every one of my posts, tried to do a lot of analysis and lead the town to help me solve the game, but ended up being wrong with every lynch I led. I was a Citizen, trying to get myself targeted for a night kill by being very vocal, solvy, pro-town, etc. This utterly failed, as I stayed alive until the end without ever being attacked. The game drained a lot out of me and I ended up pretty much obsessing over it over the holidays, which did not do wonders for my mental state, especially when I kept pushing mislynches. So, as I said, I decided to take a different tactic; people had seen my meta for how I usually play Citizen, and I wanted to try a different WIFOM, for day 1 at least, and see how people reacted. What I did is take a page straight out of my playbook for the mod; claim gamethrowing Godfather with a reasonable excuse, and see who's the most lynchhappy, and if they decide to push me or my target. It's a simple idea; either Mafia is confident enough to push a mislynch on me, or, seeing that I'm likely a TPR trying to make themselves mislynchable to prevent getting night killed, they night kill me anyway.

What I didn't expect, was to basically get ignored for most of that day, except for sheep votes. No one wanted to push after Mike, and curiously, no one wanted to push after me either, until closer to the end of day, and not until after Unknown and Auckmid put forth reasonable thoughts on why I should be pressured/lynched. When I was at L-2 and stuck to my Godfather claim, claiming nothing to defend myself and purely discrediting my train, I should have been lynched, but instead the votes vanished off of me and onto MM, who wildly decided to claim Executioner and got himself lynched for it. It seemed Mafia wasn't confident enough to push for my mislynch, so I expected to show up dead tonight, and my last will would have explained everything. Yet here I am. I guess I overstimated (or understimated) the Mafia's WIFOM-reading.

@Arsonist was the one who made himself look the most scummy yesterday with his half-hearted "yeah, Glip is scummy" wall that full of fact-filler and paraphrasing Auckmid; given his weak Doctor claim today (Oh yes, let's 'protect' Damus, one of the most mislynchable targets in the game, he's definitely likely to get nightkilled), he is #1 on my scumreads. I'd vote him, but seeing as we've already gotten all he has to say out of him today, I think the pressure is best applied elsewhere. Who was Unknown's second bus target? Why has he hidden it so far?

Light_Yagami is also throwing out gambits and "reads" left and right, in a manner similar to how I saw Dairy Queen play in Werewolf Ball, who ended up being the true Godfather in that game. He was also happy to join the train on me with little more justification than a "he feels scummy". I would be checking into this guy next.

Distorted is a curious matter; he refused to address me or my claims yesterday and instead stayed tunnel-visioned on Damus for the entire day, and now today as well. It's mostly NAI, but it feels like someone who had their own gambit in mind and they didn't know how to deal with my claim; it was just a distraction for them, so they ignored it. He also made a curious claim near end of day that I would be taken care of and should not be worried about, but, nothing happened to me last night, and again today he is focusing on Damus and ignoring me. It would be odd for Town to put this much effort into tunnel-visioning one person; I get the feeling he's trying to stick to his guns on a scumpainting gambit on Damus to push that mislynch through, before addressing my distraction. I'd like to see this guy take off his tunnel-vision blinders against Damus and address the game as a whole; it can only help him read the full game narrative, and help us read him. He's probably my best pressure target now to get a more complete story.

SCVMurderer was the one person who happily sheeped along with my Mike pressure, and then claimed Amnesiac. An easy claim, amnesiac, but it can be fairly NAI; neither town nor scum would want to kill someone who can bolster their ranks later. However, given how little effort SCVMurderer has put forth so far into the day chat, combined with how easily he sheeped along with me, the guy who claimed Godfather, and the fact that amnesiacs' new role is not revealed, makes me wary of him. He could just be a lazy Amnesiac, or a more malicious Neutral Evil/Killing; if I were a detective, I would have been on him last night most of all.

AIVION is also a weird read. Why claim TPR when you had nothing useful to give? Why so conveniently happened to check the 1 dead guy? It's too easy a claim, but given that we already have it, unless we see some counter claims come along, I don't see any reason to pressure him either.

Mike is always a very unreadable person to me; I was scum-leaning on him at first for immediately jumping to the "jester" conclusion on me and refusing to push the inevitable mislynch; but given that he's now counterclaiming the Town Protective slot against Arsonist, he has a better claim to the slot. The vet claim makes sense for someone trying to not get nightkilled, if a bit obvious. Regardless, we have his claim, and it does contradict Arsonist; this makes Arsonist a good lynch target for today, but as I said, pressure better applied elsewhere for now.

Naz has been curiously aggressive while remaining out of the spotlight of the game so far. She took my play yesterday as a reason to act angrily and ask to get me replaced; I'm sorry if my play disappointed you, but here I still am. Also, I have very little FM experience at all, most of which was over 5 years ago, so sorry if I'm not the saving grace of this website I should have been, in your eyes. Mostly NAI play from her; I don't know her, so she could just be an angry person in general, but in my limited FM experience it has been common for Mafia to put on a facade of righteous anger to appear towny.

Auckmid and Unknown were the two people yesterday I saw putting real thought and analysis into their posts, even if Auckmid didn't have room for much activity. They actually were putting forth real analysis and probing questions that showed effort in solving the game and pressuring those who needed it; namely me. I have to town-read these slots, simply because if I don't, then the town will probably lose based on effort and reads alone.

Numbertwo has been acting very erraticly and flippantly ever since replacing into this game. Most of his posts so far have been all over the place, or rather aggressively questioning, without providing any insight of his own. Being a replacement, I'd like to see him putting a little more effort into reading and solving the game thus far, a la Firebringer. The lack of real reasoning and effort behind Numbertwo's actions, as far as I can see, puts him high on my watchlist.

LunaMayGraves->Firebringer has had far too little activity thus far for me to get a real read on the slot. I'm excited to see what Firebringer has to bring to the table, other than fire.

Damus, now, he's still my buddy, if not my scum buddy; I'm town-reading him for his truly indignant (and somewhat self-doubting) response to people's reactions against his gambit. His gambit was similar to mine, but he didn't quite stick to it. Now it feels as if he's getting unduly pressured because Distorted is so tunnel-visioned on trying to pull apart the play when he saw weakness. Again, it doesn't make sense that Distorted is so focused on Damus alone when I was doing nearly the same thing. I want Distorted to either give something more concrete, or open his eyes to the rest of the town. Along that note:

-vote Distorted

[Auckmid]

Oh god, not round 2 of a "I was intentionally asking scummy to try and bait out scum votes" claim...

[Light_Yagami]

Oh god, not round 2 of a "I was intentionally asking scummy to try and bait out scum votes" claim...

Round 2 Fight..

[Glip]

Oh god, not round 2 of a "I was intentionally asking scummy to try and bait out scum votes" claim...

Call it "acting scummy" if you will, but I wasn't trying to bait votes, just gauge reactions. It's an easier play and it makes things happen to try and get reads from; I'm rather frustrated that it backfired and got ignored most of the day, and that's why I want a better explanation on Distorted on why he's so tunnel-visioned.

[Damus_Graves]

That’s fucking hilarious.
@Auckmid
Half and half. I think I am posting to frequently and it is detracting from the value of my game. I greatly dislike the way that distorted is portraying the style I have used this game. I think that I can salvage a good game out of the rest of this game depending on flips and feedbacks.

[Firebringer]

-vote Arsonist

Hey Glip, how you been?

[AIVION]

Hello again, everyone. And a special hello to you, @Firebringer , long time no see.

Sorry I've been MIA today, I came down with another bad bout of food poisoning (apparently I can't trust the nuggets from the Chick-Fil-A near me anymore... last 2 times I had them, 2 weeks apart, got food poisoning the morning after.) and been struggling to not get swallowed by work. Apparently blinkskater is short on replacements and would appreciate if I gave this game another shot. I've been skimming the day thread, but still dealing with nausea and headache so I might not have the best reading comprehension. Let me know if it seems I've missed anything important. Arsonist claims Doc, Mike claims BG and roleblocked, Unknown claims Bus Driver who swapped Aamirus with... someone else? Missed it if he said his other target.

@Mike No, I did not visit you, because I cannot visit anyone.

It appears I survived Night 1, so the mafia didn't fall for my gambit, and I might as well explain what all of that crazyness Day 1 was.

Obviously, I'm not the godfather, and Mike isn't my consort. I don't have a gamethrowing-level grudge against Mike for duping me in previous games, and no, I'm not even a jester. What happened was this:

I was just coming off of Werewolf Ball, where I put very high effort into every one of my posts, tried to do a lot of analysis and lead the town to help me solve the game, but ended up being wrong with every lynch I led. I was a Citizen, trying to get myself targeted for a night kill by being very vocal, solvy, pro-town, etc. This utterly failed, as I stayed alive until the end without ever being attacked. The game drained a lot out of me and I ended up pretty much obsessing over it over the holidays, which did not do wonders for my mental state, especially when I kept pushing mislynches. So, as I said, I decided to take a different tactic; people had seen my meta for how I usually play Citizen, and I wanted to try a different WIFOM, for day 1 at least, and see how people reacted. What I did is take a page straight out of my playbook for the mod; claim gamethrowing Godfather with a reasonable excuse, and see who's the most lynchhappy, and if they decide to push me or my target. It's a simple idea; either Mafia is confident enough to push a mislynch on me, or, seeing that I'm likely a TPR trying to make themselves mislynchable to prevent getting night killed, they night kill me anyway.

What I didn't expect, was to basically get ignored for most of that day, except for sheep votes. No one wanted to push after Mike, and curiously, no one wanted to push after me either, until closer to the end of day, and not until after Unknown and Auckmid put forth reasonable thoughts on why I should be pressured/lynched. When I was at L-2 and stuck to my Godfather claim, claiming nothing to defend myself and purely discrediting my train, I should have been lynched, but instead the votes vanished off of me and onto MM, who wildly decided to claim Executioner and got himself lynched for it. It seemed Mafia wasn't confident enough to push for my mislynch, so I expected to show up dead tonight, and my last will would have explained everything. Yet here I am. I guess I overstimated (or understimated) the Mafia's WIFOM-reading.

@Arsonist was the one who made himself look the most scummy yesterday with his half-hearted "yeah, Glip is scummy" wall that full of fact-filler and paraphrasing Auckmid; given his weak Doctor claim today (Oh yes, let's 'protect' Damus, one of the most mislynchable targets in the game, he's definitely likely to get nightkilled), he is #1 on my scumreads. I'd vote him, but seeing as we've already gotten all he has to say out of him today, I think the pressure is best applied elsewhere. Who was Unknown's second bus target? Why has he hidden it so far?

Light_Yagami is also throwing out gambits and "reads" left and right, in a manner similar to how I saw Dairy Queen play in Werewolf Ball, who ended up being the true Godfather in that game. He was also happy to join the train on me with little more justification than a "he feels scummy". I would be checking into this guy next.

Distorted is a curious matter; he refused to address me or my claims yesterday and instead stayed tunnel-visioned on Damus for the entire day, and now today as well. It's mostly NAI, but it feels like someone who had their own gambit in mind and they didn't know how to deal with my claim; it was just a distraction for them, so they ignored it. He also made a curious claim near end of day that I would be taken care of and should not be worried about, but, nothing happened to me last night, and again today he is focusing on Damus and ignoring me. It would be odd for Town to put this much effort into tunnel-visioning one person; I get the feeling he's trying to stick to his guns on a scumpainting gambit on Damus to push that mislynch through, before addressing my distraction. I'd like to see this guy take off his tunnel-vision blinders against Damus and address the game as a whole; it can only help him read the full game narrative, and help us read him. He's probably my best pressure target now to get a more complete story.

SCVMurderer was the one person who happily sheeped along with my Mike pressure, and then claimed Amnesiac. An easy claim, amnesiac, but it can be fairly NAI; neither town nor scum would want to kill someone who can bolster their ranks later. However, given how little effort SCVMurderer has put forth so far into the day chat, combined with how easily he sheeped along with me, the guy who claimed Godfather, and the fact that amnesiacs' new role is not revealed, makes me wary of him. He could just be a lazy Amnesiac, or a more malicious Neutral Evil/Killing; if I were a detective, I would have been on him last night most of all.

AIVION is also a weird read. Why claim TPR when you had nothing useful to give? Why so conveniently happened to check the 1 dead guy? It's too easy a claim, but given that we already have it, unless we see some counter claims come along, I don't see any reason to pressure him either.

Mike is always a very unreadable person to me; I was scum-leaning on him at first for immediately jumping to the "jester" conclusion on me and refusing to push the inevitable mislynch; but given that he's now counterclaiming the Town Protective slot against Arsonist, he has a better claim to the slot. The vet claim makes sense for someone trying to not get nightkilled, if a bit obvious. Regardless, we have his claim, and it does contradict Arsonist; this makes Arsonist a good lynch target for today, but as I said, pressure better applied elsewhere for now.

Naz has been curiously aggressive while remaining out of the spotlight of the game so far. She took my play yesterday as a reason to act angrily and ask to get me replaced; I'm sorry if my play disappointed you, but here I still am. Also, I have very little FM experience at all, most of which was over 5 years ago, so sorry if I'm not the saving grace of this website I should have been, in your eyes. Mostly NAI play from her; I don't know her, so she could just be an angry person in general, but in my limited FM experience it has been common for Mafia to put on a facade of righteous anger to appear towny.

Auckmid and Unknown were the two people yesterday I saw putting real thought and analysis into their posts, even if Auckmid didn't have room for much activity. They actually were putting forth real analysis and probing questions that showed effort in solving the game and pressuring those who needed it; namely me. I have to town-read these slots, simply because if I don't, then the town will probably lose based on effort and reads alone.

Numbertwo has been acting very erraticly and flippantly ever since replacing into this game. Most of his posts so far have been all over the place, or rather aggressively questioning, without providing any insight of his own. Being a replacement, I'd like to see him putting a little more effort into reading and solving the game thus far, a la Firebringer. The lack of real reasoning and effort behind Numbertwo's actions, as far as I can see, puts him high on my watchlist.

LunaMayGraves->Firebringer has had far too little activity thus far for me to get a real read on the slot. I'm excited to see what Firebringer has to bring to the table, other than fire.

Damus, now, he's still my buddy, if not my scum buddy; I'm town-reading him for his truly indignant (and somewhat self-doubting) response to people's reactions against his gambit. His gambit was similar to mine, but he didn't quite stick to it. Now it feels as if he's getting unduly pressured because Distorted is so tunnel-visioned on trying to pull apart the play when he saw weakness. Again, it doesn't make sense that Distorted is so focused on Damus alone when I was doing nearly the same thing. I want Distorted to either give something more concrete, or open his eyes to the rest of the town. Along that note:

-vote Distorted

I explained why I revealed already, I don't really know what else to say to that.

So much to read here though... I'll get to it in a bit as I have work early in the morning tomorrow and I am eagerly awaiting Unknown to return with more on his bus target.

[Glip]

-vote Arsonist

Hey Glip, how you been?

Not too well recently. Got food poisoning twice in as many weeks. Otherwise life actually going quite well in general. Positive trend upwards. Moving on up socially and economically. Can't complain.

[Mike]

here's the actual table lol

Role List[/CENTER]

Town Government	Town Investigative	Town Killing	Town Power	Town Protective	Mafia Deception	Mafia Killing	Mafia Support	Neutral Benign	Neutral Evil	Neutral Killing
Citizen Crier Mason Mayor Marshall	Coroner Detective Lookout Sheriff	Bodyguard Jailor Veteran Vigilante	Bus Driver Jailor Veteran	Bodyguard Bus Driver Doctor Escort	Beguiler Framer Janitor Tailor	Godfather Kidnapper Mafioso	Agent Consigliere Consort Kidnapper	Amnesiac Executioner Jester Survivor	Arsonist Auditor MassMurderer SerialKiller Witch	Arsonist MassMurderer SerialKiller

Lets look at the facts
Mafia Killing
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
are the 3 mafia slots we know there is a consort. no Cleaning so good bet no Janitor. So Deception has to be Beguiler, Framer, or Tailor. With last nights kill Killing is rather Godfather or Mafiso. We already know Support is Consort.

[Mike]

If you think about it With Sheriff, Framer would be best fit.

[Auckmid]

I'm going to posting more but...

I explained why I revealed already, I don't really know what else to say to that.

The reason you gave for revealing was effectively "On day 1 I gave my word I would reveal on day 2". I don't think you've given a reason why you said you would reveal on day 2.

[Mike]

Guess it is dead tonight. Night everyone.

[Unknown1234]

Looks like I missed everything. I am gonna catch up on the few pages that I’ve missed, but in the meantime I need to

-unvote

[Unknown1234]

I planned to post more tonight, but I am still exhausted from this morning and so i'll be up earlier tomorrow to post more. I bussed Aamirus with Auckmid

[Firebringer]

unknown what are ur thoughts that i can squeeze out and pretend its mine?

[Firebringer]

Glip (3 [L-4]):
Light_Yagami, Arsonist, Scvmurderer

This is a very bad wagon we have here. If we can lynch all of these, I think we would get 2/3 scum.

[Unknown1234]

unknown what are ur thoughts that i can squeeze out and pretend its mine?

Scv claims amnesiac, yet votes Damus over Glip despite thinking Glip was jester (until I told him, both Jester and Amnesiac not possible).

Light did not want to lynch the amnesiac yesterday or the executioner, and chose to vote Damus. Now he is more focused on Glip than Damus.

AIVION is probably Sheriff like he says he is. I haven't seen anything suspicious from them.

Mike thinks a Consort role blocked him. Not really certain on that, but I think it is a possibility.

Your slot didn't do a ton. I barely had any read on you.

Glip has been acting as Jester even while almost being lynched. VERY bold play as a town, but also bold as scum too. Not sure which is more likely yet.

Distorted has not looked away from Damus yet. Makes me think he's still scum because he hasn't tried to read half the game.

Arsonist claimed doctor and seems to think everyone that found him suspicious is scum. His claim was also very weak, and I think he might be most likely scum today.

Auckmid has been thinking the same way I have been this game, and got attacked by the mafia. At worst he is neutral.

Number Two fake claimed mayor, immediately gained town credit from Light, and started turning towards Arsonist being scum after everyone else. Don't like the feeling he gives me, but if Arsonist is scum I think it's a non-issue or a neutral issue.

[Firebringer]

Scv claims amnesiac, yet votes Damus over Glip despite thinking Glip was jester (until I told him, both Jester and Amnesiac not possible).

Light did not want to lynch the amnesiac yesterday or the executioner, and chose to vote Damus. Now he is more focused on Glip than Damus.

AIVION is probably Sheriff like he says he is. I haven't seen anything suspicious from them.

Mike thinks a Consort role blocked him. Not really certain on that, but I think it is a possibility.

Your slot didn't do a ton. I barely had any read on you.

Glip has been acting as Jester even while almost being lynched. VERY bold play as a town, but also bold as scum too. Not sure which is more likely yet.

Distorted has not looked away from Damus yet. Makes me think he's still scum because he hasn't tried to read half the game.

Arsonist claimed doctor and seems to think everyone that found him suspicious is scum. His claim was also very weak, and I think he might be most likely scum today.

Auckmid has been thinking the same way I have been this game, and got attacked by the mafia. At worst he is neutral.

Number Two fake claimed mayor, immediately gained town credit from Light, and started turning towards Arsonist being scum after everyone else. Don't like the feeling he gives me, but if Arsonist is scum I think it's a non-issue or a neutral issue.

These are now all my thoughts and opinions.
Thank you.

Hows break going?

[Unknown1234]

These are now all my thoughts and opinions.
Thank you.

Hows break going?

It's been good. I had a bit more time now so I decided to play a game just to see how everyone was doing. Good to see you around again. I think I tried messaging you a few times but probably on bad timing.

[Firebringer]

It's been good. I had a bit more time now so I decided to play a game just to see how everyone was doing. Good to see you around again. I think I tried messaging you a few times but probably on bad timing.

Good to see you too. Yeah things have been bad timing lately with mafia for me.

hey why you not voting on arsonist if you don't believe his claim?

[Unknown1234]

Good to see you too. Yeah things have been bad timing lately with mafia for me.

hey why you not voting on arsonist if you don't believe his claim?

I was. I unvoted like 10 posts ago.

[Unknown1234]

Thanks for reminding me though lol.

-vote Arsonist