Also, I am going to repeat this. DO NOT REPLY OR QUOTE THE NEUTRAL OR ANYONE ELSE THAT I HAVEN'T QUOTED YET
DOING THIS IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. DON'T GAMETHROW.
Also Roosevelt's argument is shit because at the time he was voting Nixon I wasn't sure everyone had picked a President and that is why - the only reason - I was afraid of a speedlynch. I can almost guarantee scum have already picked a President but I'm not sure if everyone has.
Which begs the following question.
@Bill Clinton who are you voting for President?
@George Bush who are you voting for President?
@Richard Nixon who are you voting for President?
@Ronald Reagan who are you voting for President?
@John Kennedy who are you voting for President?
How about you start contributing and quit repeating the same arguments over and over and over. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING ARGUMENTS AGAINST ME, YOU ARE REPEATING THE SAME ARGUMENTS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT FIND ANY AGAINST ME (YOU ARE SCUM OR STUPID) OR YOU ARE JUST SIMPLY STUPID
Bush could be scum because he pushed the same narrative (Clinton or Reagan MUST be scum) as you, yea, but I don't see any reason at this point not to pick the lynch between you and me, since it's clear we are not of the same alignment. I mean, again, you tried to get me lynched while I was offline and before I could defend myself.
Tell me why you think Nixon is town, why you think I am scum, why you think Bush is scum (if you think that?) or why you think I am wrong about Nixon. Quite plainly, tell me what you think about the situation, because that MOVES the game forward. Scumreading people who are trying to either scum hunt or to scum paint someone else is NOT productive even if the person in question is scum (and I'm not), because you still need to Lynch tomorrow. And you can be sure as hell that if I'm scum (and I'm not) the other scum buddies won't make the same mistakes I did.
@Abraham Lincoln why haven't you answered 2-4?
jazzy jizz man
have not voted yet, IMO the only sensible thing to do is if you guys lynch me, then you have to elect Lincoln and if we lynch Lincoln then you elect me.
As has been stated multiple times, if we mislynch the game is already lost anyway, so the assumption here is that we lynch a scum and therefore the other player must be town.
2) I have no defense in this regard because this is just fucking stupid and I agree. This is a CORRECT reason to be scumreading me but that's not what happened.
3)I joined the Lynch on Washington because Roosevelt here is a master manipulator and a scumbag and convinced me to vote for Washington even though I didn't want to do so.
4)I was overheated and overjoyed at the possibility of having figured you out as scum (honestly, I still am). No I wasn't afraid of mislynching, I am SOMEWHAT afraid of mislynching but at this point, the only two things that can happen is we lose the game or we keep it going for two more days where we have to ACCURATELY Lynch twice in a row, which is... FUCKING gay, if you ask me. Also I RETRACTED that statement almost immediately when I realized Roosevelt voted you, because I realized scum don't have to really Lynch one of us, they just have to prevent us from getting a President elected. That's really what this setup is about.
WE ALL NEED TO AGREE ON ONE PRESIDENT AND WE WILL DO THAT BY CONSENSUS. I would vote either Bush or Reagan for President. Bush over Reagan. Who would you people vote? By the way, as soon as we agree on a President, THERE IS NO GOING BACK. WE HAVE NO TIME TO RENEGE ON OUR PROMISES ANYMORE.
2) What did happen then?
3) You need to give us something more than "even though I didn't want to do so". You submitted the vote. That tells us you wanted to do so. Otherwise - you can just simply not vote Washington.
4) You have been saying all game that you found so and so as scum confirmed, flip flopping back and forth. Just a few posts before your first one that said I was scum you said I was town. What made you so sure that you had no fear of mislynching me, to the point that you were pinging the whole game to lynch me?
Your point about the presidential election is a good one, but then we should be lynching Roosevelt to stop him from being president.
IMO, though, you unvoted because I was at L-1 and it would be unlikely for someone to just come in and hammer before I could respond. However, if I am at L-2 they can vote me with less guilt and then you can hammer and win the game.
It's more important to have a town president than to keep you as escort. If both could be done, that is obviously ideal, but the only person that seems to be universally town-read is JFK, and keeping him as Bodyguard is far more valuable than keeping you as escort. Hence, voting for president the person who doesn't get lynched is the best thing for town, as we need all 4 other townies to vote the same person and that is unlikely to happen with anybody else.
2)What happened was I was waiting the whole previous day to piss off Roosevelt being genuinely convinced that Reagan was scum. I posted that so I could get Reagan lynched, thinking that mafia had not killed anyone - at the start I posted that thing about who killed Obama, and I hadn't yet had time to process the information of what exactly Obama's death meant, I acted on impulse and I agree I fucked it up. But put it this way - if I hadn't claimed that I had blocked Reagan, the Lynch would be between me and Reagan and if he was scum he would've NOT said that I had roleblocked him. Besides I was the only claim in the game so it would've been obvious I blocked him.
actually, i believe to be highly town read myself, i mean ffs the neutral knows i'm town and isn't going to follow me.
i'd like to curry votes but i understand why people wouldn't vote me after hammering yesterday ( which i won't repeat tomorrow assuming we correctly lynch today ) - but i no longer have my action and am effectively a citizen.
mafia hasn't killed me yet and they will either kill me to remove the extra votes tomorrow or leave me alive and try to mislynch me tomorrow.
the thing is, i'd like to lynch roosevelt today to block the votes but then the problem is the night kills. is lynching roosevelt today going to help us win when another town dies tonight?
if you are town i think you should vote me for president
a part of me wants to lynch trump too, but its for the same reasons i scum read obama essentially, and, well, you see how that turned out
jazzy jizz man
If we correctly Lynch and you elect me as President, it will be 4v3 (or rather 5v3) votes, which is close to MyLo. But now I can get your point and I'm no longer opposing for my own election.
So, let's start this - who do you want to see President? Everyone needs to answer because we don't have the time anymore
@Theodore Roosevelt if you weren't neutral who would you be voting for for president?
jazzy jizz man
Lynching Roosevelt is something that should only be attempted if you guys are planning on not counting on my vote, because I am 100% certain he'll possess me
Lynching Roosevelt means we are guaranteed to get a President elected, yes, but that President will only gain ONE vote. Mafia kills one of us tonight and Roosevelt possess me. Nope that's effectively handing scum the win
If I weren't the only roleblocker in this setup, that could perhaps work, but that isn't the case.
If you didn't initially say anything about the roleblock and just pushed Clinton and said he must be mafia, and Reagan said nothing about a roleblock and just jumped onto the Clinton lynch train, it would have been obvious Reagan was scum and you could have easily gotten him lynched.
OR you could have pushed Reagan and demanded a roleclaim from him in the heat of the pressure - he hadn't claimed cit yet and he may well have foolishly claimed a TPR role if he's scum, and said nothing about being roleblocked.
Or let's say Clinton was scum, and you pushed him and said nothing about roleblocking Reagan - then he might not have admitted to shooting Obama and slipped up there
Perhaps it would be a you vs Clinton or you vs Reagan argument right now, but you would EASILY have the much more damning evidence, especially as you had claimed escort yesterday
Clinton, you should follow jfks vote,
Lincoln, fucking vote
ok, so then by process of elimination
hard non-lynch
Bill Clinton - plz president me
Theodore Roosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
remaining players
Donald Trump
George Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
John Kennedy
Thomas Jefferson
everyone under the remaining players list i have no idea what their true alignment is. i can see bush, nixon, and even perhaps reagan as confused town.
so then my lynch pool is kennedy, jefferson, and trump.
jazzy jizz man
Are you kidding me? This is why nobody takes you seriously Lincoln. I thought we were barring this guy from the conversation. I don't trust you as president, or as anything outside of an escort period- and that's wearing thin.
Why are we getting sidetracked- I just read hours of back and forth that can be completely avoidable if we could stick to a lynch. The time is coming in which we need to vote and running around like this just feels like stalling.
My vote is still on Reagan for president, Considering Bush does not want the position.
I'm not voting until everyone can agree to a President. What the fuck are you doing?
@Richard Nixon I'd like for you to tell me your take on Bush
Fuck then let's vote Reagan. What is important is that we AGREE to a candidate today.
Nope my top Lynch target is Nixon unless someone can convince me to vote for someone else, BECAUSE in this setup and on this day, we're not voting by killing whoever we aren't town reading, we are killing our TOP scum reads. Smh Except for JFK everyone in this fucking setup is scummy as fuck, the only question is HOW scummy
Ok, I suggest everyone adding Lincoln to their block list because we really can't entertain him anymore. He is hindering all progress and promoting confusion.
I would like town to vote me president.
Reagan was roleblocked, and I used my town assassin shot on Obama.
Can anyone else think of any reasons why mafia would NOT KILL? Otherwise, I am pretty set on Reagan being the one that was sent for Mafia's night kill.
And why are people trusting JFK? A part of me wanted to shoot him for the canon, as well as the fact that I scum read him.
jazzy jizz man
If bush is scum, so are you, IMO. He pushed the same narrative as you that we had to lynch either Clinton or Reagan even though it's not true, and for much of the game he's said he didn't read entire blocks of posts because he considered them spam, which is a convenient way for a scum to discredit and also avoid responding to significant portions of the game. He also said during D2 that he scumread me for a good reason but he couldn't remember what it was. He's also the only person besides Jefferson who hasn't claimed a role, which could have town WIFOM points to it but is often cuz scum don't want to commit to a fake role.
All that being said, I currently townread him specifically because he wanted to avoid revealing to the scum that if they voted Teddy that had a pretty much surefire chance of winning the game. He's also made genuine effort to get a town president elected.
I would say they didn't know if you were really assassin and would shoot somebody so they probably wanted to make sure they could get another mislynch today, and the easy way to do that was for consort Lincoln to roleblock somebody and for mafia to not attack and then pin the guy who is roleblocked as scum