My iso was interrupted when I found fred extremely conflicting with alright's post which is why i agreed with pushing for fred's lynch - again, i was not here when you guys were collaborating and i found fred/SP scummy after you all decided for him. I even took my time to vote until i iso'd fred a bit. then SP came along and shitposted and that didn't sit right with me
again, i am still reading Iced/Stealth as promised, though for Stealth is looking very town to me. I am uncertain on iced but i will need to reread again
i don't sheep - i agreed with trine on who we lynched last night, except a bit for alright but since he didn't do a damn it wasn't going to be a shitty lynch either way. i only waited on him for his personal opinion of what he thinks we should do since he is the only confirmed townie here.
i am also starting to loathe other players who just come in and vote and afk and then do nothing/follow up with relevant reads on what's going on right now, but i see grommor starting to be a bit more active so i think we're going to get on a good page
Everyone should have followed me yesterday, I used my lynch ability. Today, I'm letting others push the game along. I just want it to be over soon.
90% of us didn't know this was going to be an actual fm. lol. I never join the big ones because I dont have 3 weeks to dedicate to a game
It's not a jab. You accuse me of sheeping and then sheep yourself. Yes, following the confirmed town on day 1 is correct. I said this. This is the sole reason I voted Fred even though I disagreed. You accuse me of sheeping for voting with the confirmed town, but it's not sheeping for you to do the same? Explain this bit for me.
So you didn't scum hunt him yourself, you just agreed with what others said after it was said? You started to do some work independently to verify that for yourself, but once again this is a claim that has no proof to it. Even if I believe you and you did go and iso him partially, it was done so after he was already scum hunted. If you're not a sheep, then you're a bandwagoner.
So you just agreed with the vote and voted him yourself. Bandwagon or sheep.
Seems almost like you start to deflect/change the subject near the end here. It wasn't subtle at all though. I noticed.
You didn't do any scum hunting of your own (it's fine if you're decently inactive. I get it. But, you weren't inactive). But to later claim someone who did scum hunt sheeped a vote and then to later claim that you yourself didn't just follow town is contradictory. You said it yourself that you just followed town.
i didn't consider sheeping the marshall a bad thing (especially if your argument makes sense as to why you'd vote for them), given we're supposed to follow him anyway - as mentioned in my post above, i read fred/sp posts and continued to fervently agreed with lynching fred/sp. as marshall and the others have voted for him before i, it looks like i sheeped here however i did not b/c i wanted one of them gone especially because i thought we could totally resolve multiple slaols vs fred's mason claim, but after the lynch run yesterday i don't feel better either, which i can somehow understand your indignation especially after receiving such townlike read for SP.
i definitely agree that one of the slaols who isnt using blue color is a good lynch today, especially given their lack of contribution and only sheeping votes without actual reasoning. or as i said before, grommor, unknown, ika are now scummy to me given their lack of participation/activity/unable to give good reasons/arguments and other than writing "baa"
iced and fury get my higher town reads by the way, finished my iso's on both now. however feedbacks and actions can change per day so we will have to see
you really need to stop putting words in my mouth - read my posts again please and take a moment - i unvoted when fred was replaced, asked him for his leads and opinions. he did not follow up until way too late after when i voted and the rest of the town were clearly not set on changing their votes due to the large playerbase
no, i agreed on my own reads. I gave them before already - compare me with other players who just voted (i.e. check out fake slaols/unknown who voted me for absolutely no reason). this part does not make sense either, and as before you are massively focusing on one person when other players have done worse
I was actually inactive - i was wroking for academic bowl tournaments here and had to be out of the most days, so i was not able to devote time on figuring out scum in a greater detail. again, this is my first fm as well, so i am still learning quirks.
you are also completely missing my lines where i said i already agreed because of my reads.
So you didn't consider sheeping him a bad thing. This means that you (at the time) didn't consider sheeping marshall a bad thing. You just admitted to sheeping the vote. "I didn't consider it bad at the time" = you did it and didn't think it was bad.
So you went from saying it's ok to sheep and essentially admitting that you did to stating you didn't sheep? Why are you denying you did it if it isn't bad to sheep? If you did, it doesn't matter by your argument.
Was there any reason for me not to be a town read before? The only person pushing against lynching veteran? Seems like you town read me because I'm criticizing you. You're even praying for any excuse to not town read me so you can push back in a meaningful way.
Keep the inconsistencies coming, fam.
again, i did not sheep. you are clearly narrowing down to my specific part instead of looking at the whole picture as to make my argument look weak, lol.
i am not denying it, i am telling you i simply did not.
I had already town read you long before then, was unsure then you started contributing when i came back. as i said things may change but you are fine with me for now as i see no reason to fight for a fury lynch on you.
That response could have been summed up as: "nope"
You say my objections are trivial, but I disagree. Inconsistencies aren't trivial. Regardless, I think we should let others chime in at this point.
Maybe I am tunneling him. I just hate inconsistency. His responses weren't even consistent. I haven't read all of the posts from today, but I think I remember someone saying they didn't like Sino. I think he's town. As for the Slaols, those names have me tilted out of my mind and I haven't bothered to sit down and figure out who is who.
Forgive me then, but the last 2 times I was talked down from lynches, they were scum. As I said, I follow my gut. Regardless, I have a null read on grommor. Some posts of his give me a town vibe and others give me a scum vibe.
Let it be noted that while I find his scum hunting townish, he has been doing it in a very weak way. Also, he didn't start pushing Slaol until after Slaol voted for him. That was what I could come up with in 4 minutes. I'll be away for a bit now.
I honestly feel like we should take a look at some of the lurkers like @ika , the ones who vote without offering us any real reason like some of the sloals or unknown. Though I guess it's hard to pressure/get reads on people who refuse to participate.
yeah, I'm going to be a bit afk in terms of the game - waiting on others to make their calls/chimes here. if they don't say anything i will start pushing for one of the slaols, but for now i am pretty worn out
If that's true, then I think I lean town on you. Anyways, I need to go back sooner or later and evaluated Iced's posts from today. I don't think I've given him enough attention. You guys think he's town, but I'll have to check that for myself. I null read Stealth day 1 for possibility of scum team with Iced. But, if Iced is town, then perhaps my null read on Stealth should appropriately shift more town. Anyways, I really don't have a grasp on the slaol situation, so I can't chime in there. At least one of them has acted fairly scummy, that is all I have kept track of. So if Trine (town) and Grommor (town lean) think I'm tunneling FB, then maybe I should look into a different lynch.
I won't be unvoting yet though as I don't have a grasp on the slaol situation. So, hearing from 2 veritable people isn't enough to make me venture into unfamiliar waters just yet. I stand by my read, but I am interested in hearing from more people.
I viewed him as one of those players who "actively lurks" by posting nothing of value just to appear active. It's pretty scummy to do that. Hence, the emphasis on sheeping and denial of it. I don't consider troll voting scummy. I did that a shit ton by voting that host several times throughout my last game. Anyways, I agree we have time which is why I'm entertaining the idea of looking elsewhere. Anyways, I'm getting bored.
Fury's town, Trine's town, Yzb's good
Grommor doesn't feel good to me
Funce is a shit
Who else would you like me to look at, because I want no part in the Slaol stupidity.
the town marshall sorted them out a little bit. i'll rerepeat what was going on
one slaol claimed mason
one slaol was mad at the mason leader flip
there's a slaol who has been talking in blue, trying to be helpful? thats the most recent one, been most active while i've been paying attention
and the one with name SLAOL is a coasting, and had a weird sheep vote or something.
consider the one i'm voting. [SLAOL]
@MattZed do scum have a day chat?
Good morning, everyone.
-vote SLaoL
Probably sticking this vote for the day, SLaoL being one of the most inactive members (won't forget about ika/maybe one slaol). Let's chime in our opinions and get this going.
@MattZed , will you replace these inactives eventually?
will you replace these inactives eventually?
forgot to mark this in green
-vote Firebringer