I remember that thread. Pretty sure I told everyone Trump would beat out all of the blue blood Rockefeller Republicans in the primaries because he actually addresses issues the Republican base cares about (the 2nd amendment, third world immigration, relative economic decline and lop-sided trade deals). It felt good being proven right. Despite the shitty polls just weeks from the election I still think he has a strong chance of winning. People who hold un-PC opinions generally don't admit to them in polls (just look at the Brexit vote). Pretty ridiculous seeing the New York Times predict an 80% chance of a Clinton victory when her natural base (minorities, milennials and the college educated) just isn't energized to vote for her due to her immense baggage as a career politician. Gary Johnson is probably taking more votes from Hillary than from Trump at this point.
Obviously I would vote Trump in an instant if I were American. He isn't the most eloquently spoken proponent of my views on immigration, but he is the first prominent political voice since Eisenhower to say enough is enough. I don't think he's quite as stupid as the MSM and his Queens dialect would have us believe. You have to be pretty smart to game the system the way he has (or at least hire smart people). I even think releasing his tax returns could work in his favor with voters. Who knows best how to fix the tax code than the biggest tax-cheat of them all?
I am more of a centrist on economic issues and definitely wish he were more like Hillary on that score. If corporations are fleeing to the Cayman islands because they don't want to pay 35% on their profits, they aren't going to come back to the U.S. and pay his proposed 15% when they could keep paying next to nothing abroad. The ones that have stayed realize the benefits of having your headquarters and logistical nerves close to market. His proposals would recklessly baloon the deficit even as he criticizes Obama for doubling U.S. federal debt. The only mitigating factor here (as he has rightly pointed out) is that the U.S. Treasury is basically borrowing for free right now.
His opposition to abortion and climate change are losing battles in the eyes of most voters, and some of his unscientific statements really leave you scratching your head. I get that Solyndra was a giant boondogle, but that doesn't mean we can rely on coal forever, especially when solar energy is about to become more cost efficient than coal. It's a cynical ploy to grab Appalachian votes, but tbqfh Appalachia needs to face the music and realize those coal jobs are never coming back.
This is a good point.
Probably futile, but we can use this to caution our fellows before they devolve into the acting out the same type of behavior.
Let's not use my not-aggressive question as something to turn into a jab.
Instead of trying to demean someone's worth, you could actually do something productive and attempt to educate him.
@Suntax You probably should have expected something like this to happen, especially with you bringing in views that are unpopular.
Since you are the owner of this thread, I suggest that you refrain from calling millennials irrational as that will offend many.
In the meanwhile, you can join me upon educating yourself with American politics.
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Concerning immigration:
[I am biased toward Mexicans because I think Mexicans are nice.]
You do, however, affiliate immigrants with people who are more likely to commit crimes. Yes... but the more telling fact is that poverty and crime are linked.
And that poverty and immigration are linked.
How this affects you:
Someone said this but—1. immigration fuels the economy.
2. A stronger US economy means a better world economy.
3. Which means you might be more likely to keep your job.
1) Donald Trump hasn't paid federal taxes in at least 30 years.
Does this mean Donald Trump isn't paying his fair share?
Who would you say is being the most 'unfair' to the United States? Donald Trump or every current illegal immigrant combined?
2) You probably recognize illegal immigrants prefer to be legal.
Where fairness is concerned with respect to taxes:
Do you believe any legalized American would work for well below government mandated minimum wage?
Do you believe any legalized Anerican would accept the jobs and hours illegal immigrants take?
I'd argue illegal immigrants pay a price far greater than taxes and are far more essential to our economy than most American citizens.
Apo don't know how to respond to your Trump comments, Apo has no love for him.
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That's only because we allow the system to be this way. Why do have the system if we are going to exclude a percentage and even consider it illegal in the first place?
Someone will always need to work certain jobs. If there isn't a decent means. the economy would need to shift to make it work. Are you saying that it is right that we have folks that work for below minimum wage? Do you believe immigrants should have to carry these unnecessary hardships?
Apo would also argue that illegal immigrants pay a price far greater than taxes, but that also doesn't make it right for them not to pay any. Yes, there is a lower to upper class gap that needs to be formed to keep the status quo, but there needs to be a limit to everything.
I think arguing for illegal immigration as a necessary evil is a slippery slope towards a pro-slavery argument; Likewise with illegal immigrant pay.
I'd like everyone to earn at least a "living" wage.
I'd like everyone to be treated with respect.
I'd also like a beer. Cheers.
Second-if I decided to not voice ny unpopular opinion then im giving in to the political correctness.
Im obviously not a expert on this but a lot of you would likely understand my viewpoint if you cant from Russia.
If I remember a quote from Putin he stated that id there's is a single terror attack in Russia in 24 hours every Muslim will be dead.
When I see trump, I see somebody who is like putin-A strong leader who will do what they need to for the country . A lot id you will think Putin is done evil Russian overlord.
but under his leadership he has rebuilt this country, grow the military to good standards with good weaponry and improved the economy all after the communist and uneeded trade sanctions from Obama who had the mentality of a cold war president.
Trump getting elected would calm this heated floor on international politics which would be raised if Clinton got elected.
To whoever was talking about my generation-i lived through communism, cold war Russia, two fucking wars and now even in Russia I hear millennial moaning how hard life is and SJW's (A sjw is a social justice warrior, people who contradict themselves, are complete hypocrites and follow stupid movements) moaning how unequal the world is.
I fail to see any good thing a millennial has done that I care about.
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
I don't understand how you can reconcile both these thoughts at once:
*Hillary is a criminal who likely had people killed to stay in power, so she would be an awful leader
*Putin is a criminal who likely had journalists killed to stay in power, so he's a strong leader who does what he needs to do for the country
Also, Russia is ranked lower than Zimbabwe in press freedom, you guys could really use more SJW's.
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Last terrorist attack in Russia was in August of this year, in Moscow. I wonder what's taking Putin so long?
The number of soldiers in the Russian army is 5 times less than there were in 1991. There are 25 times less tanks, 10 times less aircraft, and military spending has dropped 4 times. The Russian military still mostly uses technology from before the Soviet Union collapsed.
That's because Yeltsin was such an inept leader and fucked up the economy to the point that it couldn't get any worse. The economy right now is only a little stronger than it was right before the Soviet Union collapsed. Even before the trade sanctions, the economy in Russia has grown slower than the average for the world, so Putin is a below-average leader in terms of improving the economy. Besides that, the growth has been seen mainly in Moscow and St. Petersburg. The rest of Russia lives almost the same as they did in 1991.
Didn't you just say that Putin is a good guy for threatening to kill 1.6 billion Muslims? And don't you think he's a great dude for starting war in Ukraine? How can you think that a strong leader like Putin is good, but also want to calm the heated floor on international politics?
There are millennials right now living through genocide by ISIS, in poverty and civil war in Africa, and even in the western world there are millennials who are homeless and live in poverty-stricken areas struggling to get by. Compared to them, you're just a little SJW bitch who can't stop whining about the government. You just want Putin and Trump in power because you want them to make you feel safe from problems that don't exist, and while these people have a real chance of being killed every day you're crying about having a little bit less money than you think you should.
Your generation started two wars, lost one, and you think that means you guys did things right?
Obama, Clinton, the leader of ISIS, and Osama bin Laden are all in your generation. Judging by what you're talking about, it looks like all the problems you've mentioned are directly caused by politicians or figures that are in the same generation as you, and not millennials. If the worst thing that millennials do is moan about SJW shit, then I'd say they came out much better than you did.
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the vast majority of firearms possessed by criminals were originally stolen from legal owners. u and the dipshits that agree with u deserve to get gunned down in chi town for being so dangerously stupid. guns dont just appear outta thin air u fucking moron
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The illegal immigrant situation isn't going to be fixed anytime soon because those of those perpetrating it.
Farmworkers are exempted from minimum wage laws, they make at best less than half of min wage. Corporate farms aren't going to let Congress change that.
Also, the 1%ers and 2%ers like to use illegals for cheap housekeeping and lawn maintenance on their private properties. They like to use them for factory/construction jobs that OSHA wouldn't allow, or whenever the bosses don't want to pay into Social Security taxes, health insurance, workman's comp, retirement accounts, vacation pay, and, again, fair wages.
You can get away with all sorts of things if your employees can't fight back.
Putin wants control over muslim-controlled oil wells. Just like everyone else.
Please stop using the term "political correctness." It's abundantly clear that no one right of center knows what it means.
Trump is not Putin. I don't like Putin, but I have to respect him as a global leader.
Trump is not a global leader, he's a nasty, intellectually lazy, orange clown. H's made it clear, he said out loud that he doesn't know everything that the job requires and that he would delegate parts of the job - of President of the United States - to his underlings!
If you aren't going to do the work, why apply for the job?
As for the Millennials, aren't they cute?
I remember when the GenXers blamed us Boomers for everything - including stuff we'd already blamed the Greatest Generation for. lol.
It's kids generalizing the world around them, as if you or I have any real power to make it all better. They'll have kids, their kids will grow up, and the cycle will continue. Good times.
Banana got banned?
Shit.
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Nig, regardless of how gangs got the guns originally they're still there. Take away guns and you're taking it away from citizens. How are you going to convince organized crime to give up their guns. Omg liberal trash please think for 3 seconds
THE REAL ISSUE is the trade of guns. with long rifles especially you don't need to document trades. Im sorry you haven't been out in the real world and have had any real experiences. Have you ever bought a gun before?
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I bought a mossberg drunk as fuck for 150. great purchase, shouldn't have done it when i was drunk. I AM THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WE NEED TO STOP FROM BUYING PRIVATE SALES. Also mateo, you're wrong most criminals get their guns through private sales and then scratch off the serial number. READ NIGGA READ
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Fwiw - Russia does a lot of interesting stuff. I won't get into how you guys handle domestic policy because it's pretty much exactly what you fear to be true is true. Dropping that entirely.
Russia has been developing some new ICBM tech which is pretty decent. Like decent enough to finally counter China. Which is a major step forward since like 30 years. I highly highly highly doubt that remains proprietary, however. It's basically common knowledge now, but good effort.
I recently went to a Syrian-Russian wedding in Thailand. I have nothing but love for your people. But at some point you have to say enough is enough and stop dicking around.