And I'm all caught up and free for discussion
Due
Hama
Huu
Jin Wei
June
Koh
Kuruk
Kyoshi
Kyoshi Warrior #3
La
Lion Turtle
Momo
Monk Gyatso
Pathik
Sangok
Tho
Yangchen
Wan Shi Tong
Wang Fire
Wei Jin
And I'm all caught up and free for discussion
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Tho is still at L2..
and with 30 minutes left
-vote Tho
working on that read wall.
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I am finding you difficult to understand.
I am not sure what exactly you're taking issue with so I will explain the whole situation from start to finish for you in the hope that it answers your queries.
1. Before I went to bed I voted for June.
2. When I woke up I was informed there were 3.5 hrs remaining in Day. June was L-8, you (Kyoshi) were L-3 and Tho was L-4.
3. A no-lynch is a very bad outcome today.
4. The two viable candidates for lynch were Kyoshi and Tho.
5. One of them needed to be lynched in order to prevent Zuko from executing tonight.
6. I weighed the cases for both together with the slightly increased likelihood that a Kyoshi lynch would be successful (Kyoshi was 1 vote ahead) together with my initial reads (remember I had Kyoshi orange, Tho white) together with the opinions of others I respected together with my gut feeling.
7. I found Kyoshi to be the better candidate for lynch.
8. Kyoshi claimed Appa, a role that will hopefully confirmable in coming days.
9. Kyoshi was no longer a good candidate for lynch.
10. Somebody still needs to be lynched.
11. The remaining candidate is Tho.
12. It is unclear what he will flip.
13. I will vote to lynch him because he's the sole remaining candidate and we need to lynch or risk a casualty to Zuko.
I hope this clears up any questions you have.
Just going to apologize for my absence day 1, Already spoken to Roku about it. Personal issues that he was aware of in advance. Will be more active Day 2.
Food for thought: Swapping yourself with somebody who you want to die would only give bus feedback to one person, which would be sketchy, especially if you actually get attacked and whoever you swap yourself with dies, then noone would be able to confirm you.
Maybe a better idea would be if someone guards or heals you tonight, and you swap two other players, which would yield two bus feedback and pretty much make you a confirmed Town for tomorrow. At least for tonight.
I hope there aren't any flaws in that plan. I still have to give another read to the setup.
Can somebody tell me when day's going to end? Unless there's any objections I will hammer soon. I want to nap.
Hosts, please use the +-(insert hours) function of Wolfram alpha to specify timezones rather than the abbreviated named time-zones. There are multiple Central Standard Timezones in this world of ours and my Wolfram Alpha is trying to tell me Day 1 ended over 15hrs ago.
Zuko, the role, has been ironed out a little bit. Plz check setup for some minor tweaks as well as clarification.
Its a good read
You spoke volumes for yourself more than I ever could.
I was gold thank you.
Kyoshi: His posts do relate to the game and he is not trolling, however he seems to be skirting around the edges of discussion. His posts make me wary.
Tho: 3 posts which doesn't give much to say, however he did ask for constant access to the Player post links which at least suggested to me that he wants to be reading players and analysing. Whether for good or bad, it's too early to tell, but potentially not a bored Citizen.
"The two options are Tho and Kyoshi. I had Kyoshi down as potential scum but at least he/she posts, however the posts are often filler. I hate allowing Lurkers like Tho to live because it just propagates the idea that scum can lurk and live. However, that one post by Tho where he asked to have constant access to the Player Links was encouraging so I will give him the benefit of the doubt today only. Kyoshi is also one vote ahead and is more likely to reach the votes needed. "
I think you spoke well with your own words about yourself
-vote Tho
Rest in peace.
Tho has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Tho (11 [L-0]): Due, Lion Turtle, Hama, Yangchen, Kuruk, Momo, Wan Shi Tong, June, Wei Jin, Monk Gyatso, Kyoshi
Kyoshi (4 [L-7]): Kyoshi Warrior #3, Pathik, Huu, Wang Fire
Hama (1 [L-10]): Sangok
Tho thought he was a powerful Water Bender, utilizing his Swamp Bending to manipulate water in a quicker, sharper motion. However, Hama, master blood bender, proved to him how powerful Water Bending can really be.
He was a
Earth Kingdom Citizen.
Night 1 ends at this time: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...3+october+23rd (this link should be correct for everyone)
Please have your night actions in 1 hour before night ends.
Night Chats going live as soon as Fang can fly you there.
Last edited by Guru Pathik; October 23rd, 2013 at 12:51 AM.
The original Wolframalpha said night 1 would be 48 hours, this was incorrect.
The link has been corrected with the 24 hour timer.
Day 2
La was killed last night. Having yet to master more than Air Bending, Admiral Zhao and company were too much for a young Aang. The weight of the 100 years war was too much for the shoulders of the 12 year old Avatar to bear, and his quest was put to a stop before it even began. Balance, the Spirits, and the people of the world will have to turn to other heroes to overcome their new situation.
June, the heralded tracker, from the Water Tribe, also found herself matched in wits with Zuko, and unable to prove herself worth his weight in gold.
- Player List -
Due
Hama
Huu
Jin Wei
Koh
Kuruk
Kyoshi
Kyoshi Warrior #3
Lion Turtle
Momo
Monk Gyatso
Pathik
Sangok
Yangchen
Wan Shi Tong
Wang Fire
Wei Jin
- Graveyard -
Tho- the Earth Kingdom Citizen, blood bent day 1 by Hama
June- the Water Tribe Citizen, executed night 1 by Zuko
La- the Avatar, killed night 1 by Admiral Zhao
Day 2 ends at this time: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...ober+26th+2013
17 players remaining means it takes 9 votes to hammer.
I could have sworn the setup previously said Zuko was unable to execute following a lynch. Was that change part of the update referred to here? :
Zuko, the role, has been ironed out a little bit. Plz check setup for some minor tweaks as well as clarification.
I checked the order of operations to see if La got even one speaking off before she died. She didn't.
1. Zuko captures
2. King Bumi traps
3. Night chats open
4. Bruiser eliminates
5. Huu transforms (veteran alert)/ Jeong Jeong casts Wall of Fire
6. Malu amazes (beguiler)
7. Aang/Appa airbending (bus swap)
8. Yue enchants/avoids (enchantress lure/repel)
9. Katara freeze/consort roleblock
10. Suki fights
11. Haru/Tyro/pipsqueak guard (bodyguard)
12. All kills
13. Aang reveals his identity/gives new role
14. Jet recruits
15. Bato informs
16. Sokka encourages
17. Katara heals
18. Framer frames
19. The duke watches/Sokka follows
20. Consigliere/Hakoda investigates
21. Master Pakku trains/War Minister Qin arms
22. Blackmailer silences
23. Cabbage is destroyed
24. Cabbage is grown
25. Freedom Fighters disband
26. Win Conditions evolve
Oh my gosh... I don't even.... All right, well, that screws over any and all chances of evolving win conditions, so I would like to say that allying with the FFs is in our best interest. Zuko is now officially against us unless.. Does Zuko still become the Blue Spirit upon Iroh's death even if Aang is dead? If so, then we could still potentially lock his alignment while eliminating a swing-vote.
Also, my plan of keeping Cits hidden is even more important; there are only 2 water tribe left, and if June wasn't Tui, then it's 50/50 toss-up on the final two. Btw, I was right when I called June jester/town ^·^. Sorry, couldn't help myself xD.
On allying with the FFs, I am not suggesting Katara reveal now. Maybe if we confirm Momo as Appa she could, but then a bruiser is still possible and imo not worth the risk. What I AM saying, is that neither of the traitors can be trusted(Iroh is a swing-vote, Zuko is against us until Iroh dies), and therefore we should try and get on the FFs' good sides, since they are our only ally left.
Does anybody else find it bizarre that Zuko chose June to jail and execute? Many of us were convinced June was a scum or jester, and executing her seems to be an inherently pro-town thing to do. Given the only way Zuko could have joined us would have been to jail Aang, it doesn't make sense for Zuko to try and help us and make a good impression. Zuko must have considered June a priority target to intervene ahead of us. Strange. Nevertheless, with Aang's death the Traitors are now irreversibly pitted against us.
I believe what he was doing was an attempt at good-will; kill someone believed to be scummy to say that he wanted to ally with us, and essentially tell us he would use his jail for the town.
Zuko, if you want this, remember we can only ally if Iroh dies. Otherwise, you're 1 person against 3 factions that all want you dead.
Derp. Thanks for catching that lol.
Either way, he shouldn't be dismissed, since I just re-checked the setup and.. KATARA. IF YOU REVEAL, I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOU. Team Avatar's win condition cannot evolve, meaning the FFs are permanently our enemies, even if their win evolves. So really, we can only ally with Zuko or Iroh, and Iroh can turn on us at any time, so we need to kill Iroh to get Zuko, kill Jet ASAP before he gets Smellerbee, and get rid of the FNs.
Tl;dr: Find and kill Jet is #1 priority, killing FNs is like 1.5, then killing Iroh is last priority.
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-vote Kyoshi Warrior #3
Hama dun ninja'd mah post. But I second his notion, as Aang could have chosen to air bend instead of speak, and kyoshi could just use those to help her claim.
I would be interested to know if Katara's Freeze ability gives the same or different feedback to a Consort's role-block. If the feedbacks are different then providing Due isn't lying (and at the moment there's no reason to believe he is), it sounds like the Fire Nation have a Consort.
A Consort makes sense in this setup.
Nothing happened to me last night.
Are you fucking kidding me? How messed up is this story?!La- the Avatar, killed night 1 by Admiral Zhao
Which means that you weren't the original roleblock target. (Yes, Sherlockitty strikes again).7. Aang/Appa airbending (bus swap)
8. Yue enchants/avoids (enchantress lure/repel)
9. Katara freeze/consort roleblock
I agree with Lion Turtle's priority list.
Even if the FN is dangerous due to their voting power, Jet can mean -1 Town +1 scum every night.
That said, I would plce the FN as 1.1 priority, since pretty much everyone else's victory conditions are locked up at this point:
Aang is dead, so no evovled win condition for us.
Zuko cannot capture Aang.
Same for Iroh.
The FF is locked against the Town.
It's too early for the Benigns to evolve their victory conditions.
The only ones who can still make it easier for them are the FN, so it's in our interest to stop them as soon as possible, or at least destroy their ranks by the time they get Tui (if ever).
I told you before, didn't I? Inaction will lead us to defeat. I can't stand seeing you doing nothing but crying over split mink.. I say we should trial Kyoshi again.
-vote Kyoshi
Nothing happened to me last night, I'm still reading back through day 1 but I agree with pressure voting SOMEONE for more info. I also need to sleep soon so I'll probably post again in a few hours at best.
Wang is disturbing... So focused on Kyoshi, who's claiming one of the easiest roles to prove, and yet he still thinks we should pressure her... lolwut? Why the heck would we waste time pressuring someone who can easily prove themselves, and would be a retard not to?-vote Wang FireIn b4 jest/exe.
I'm more of the idea that he's playing Cabbage Executioner. Noone is that bad/obvious.
Also any of you guys realize that if Huu is an Earth Kingdom citizen he is now outted and a free recruit to the FF since Aang is gone.
Yup. But the thing is, FFs care more about the FN than they do us; nothing in their win condition says we have to be dead for them to win, so it makes sense for them to rush the FN and traitors and ignore town. Plus, unless they have Smellerbee, they'll still need to take out the FN and traitors after reverting. So again, it makes sense for them to ignore town and just go for FN/traitors.
Therefore, I say ignore the FFs themselves, and just kill Jet. Then after he's dead, use Huu as a check to see if they have Smelkerbee(this is assuming Huu is not Jet himself who was trying to find Aang to kill for his evolved win. Or FN doing the same)
These evolved wins are screwing with me. They won't need us dead IF they get Katara. Either way, I like the idea of using Huu as a check more than just lynching him (inb4 jet gets Smellerbee, dies, and never converted Huu.)