Even though the detective "follows", im pretty sure that he would be considered to be at the MM's house if he follows the MM.
That means that as long as the MM doesn't visit his own home, the detective could find him out.
But the detective would only find out that he visited some guy who didn't die (if he was a PR and targeted to visit someone).
He'd have to know that other people who visited the person that he tracked this guy visiting died last night and he didn't. Much harder to figure out, or relies on people always leaving last wills stating who they're targeting that night.
Who said MM cannot visit himself ;) it would work like a Veteran and probably should be consider as a alternate option for not possessing ability to kill Detective at all. Well, he can have multiple kills, Arsonist is pretty much nerfed comparing to SK for that one reason.
Another thing - MM would be able to kill Detective still if he role-blocked.
Last edited by JackWolfsong; August 4th, 2012 at 07:04 AM.
So?
Escort dying to sk relies on people leaving in their last will who they are visiting. Jailor who he jailed, etc.
It isn't the game's fault (or the role's fault) if people don't play well enough. There is also a chance that he sees the MM go to a cits/mayors/masons/etcs house and figures it out that way since they don't move.
Detective definitely CAN find the MM.
Lookout, on the other hand, is pretty boned when it comes to the MM. But its fine if one role can't find him.
edit: actually, lookout can find him with the help of a doctor.
Last edited by MissingNo; August 4th, 2012 at 08:35 AM.
Uh, when is it coming?
I think it should be paired up with detective..
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Hang on, if a busdriver swaps him with his target, will he still be "hit by a bus", while the busdriver dies? Because that would be...weird.
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Seems intresting. Hope some achievements have also been added to complament the new role.
targeting self while immune at night basically makes him invincible to detection.
op
I love oops
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Not even.
All Inv, Det, Lookout, roles have to do is say -lw checking X tonight.
Think things through all the way please.
Jailors get Jailbreaking SKs all the time by -lw Jailing X tonight.
If he gets killed by an SK that night odds are pretty good we know who is guilty....
What happens if The Mass Murderer Visits the Veteran ? Will the Mass Murderer die or the Veteran? Vet kills everyone that comes at his house and the Mass Murderer kills everyone at the house too.
Doctor + investigative role combo.
Escort + investigative role combo.
Jailer + investigative role combo.
Last wills.
Coroner.
Classic mafioso+citizen scum hunt.
If a lookout watches a player who visits the MM's target what does he see? Does the MM attack count as a visit or is it like vet?
On one hand his ability is like a portable vet so it makes sense to treat it like vet. On the other hand it is stronger than vet since he can kill players who do nothing. In addition this is an evil/good comparison so it could be treated like how spy can hear mafia chat but not mason chat even though they are similar.
Personally I think that lookout should only detect the people the MM attacks while detective should detect the person MM choses to visit. I mean the lookout is seeing if players performed actions on other players, not their houses.
Last edited by maccabbe; August 5th, 2012 at 12:45 AM.
Awesome.
Just sad.. when it will be released I wont be all roles anymore.
#ALLROLES
i think you will still have the achievement and just get 50 points for first win with MM like in all neutral roles. because if you lose the achievement and get it again you will get 650 points every time a new role comes up^^
mmh just had a thought... with this new role... it's kinda like Vet... and if Witch was to visit the MM and send him some where Witch would be safe... right?
but what if Vet was changed to work the same way? if a Witch visit a Vet and make him target someone else... he'd go to that house at kill everyone that enter?
or would it make Witch too powerful over Vet?
Erm... are you talking about Vet or MM?
Vet is self target ability. Visit others means no self target means no alert, assuming witching takes effect before alerting that is...
I will assume witching is before mass murdering though. Won't know before we try?
G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)
so when is this role getting implemented?
G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)
Why would the mm die?
In game name: Sam
Backfire!
Kill yourself with MM as a Witch.
So let me get this straight, this is a Lookout who instead of seeing everyone at a house just kills them...
G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)
Ah... now i see this guys who takes -name Anders Breivik. And Ironically, they will be Mass Murderer
OMG FIRST
Yuuuuussss
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damn shame I can't play
game either crashes at loading screen or feezes up n2/3/4
in 1.4.4 everything was fine but blizzard f*cked 1.5 up
G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)
https://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4...ignamegold.gifSpoiler : Army Guild Tag :
Mass murderer goes to mayor at night, bodyguard goes to mayor at night, isnt the bodyguard supposed to die?
What happens when the doctor is at the MM's targeted house and the doctor heals another person at the targeted house? Does the healing occur before the MM kills everyone in the house? Example:
MM visits a Citizen. Doc heals that Citizen. Will MM kill them both because his attack has first priority? Or will the heal come first, and the Cit lives (and only the Doc dies)?