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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
I'm an Illwei alt but idk I havent played on FoL in like a year
Oh Illwei!
What’s up!
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
every night?
n1 helz
n2 MM (I thought doc dodge on Huo)
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
DM why the fuck does it matter to you
if I am wolf I know what's bad to claim and can easily claim or not claim or whatever the heck wifom it
Mizery's known not to understand mech all that well
but you?
I expected better
I’m just pointing it out.
Are you not hesitant on claiming?
Mizery was and they aren’t mafia are they?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
oh Hi Illwei!!
were you able to finish lady bug?
I'm sorry for your luck this game
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
lol why are you saying i don't understand mech
I mean
I feel like half the time I try to talk about mech the way I (usually) do you tend to not understand it well or focus on other stuff or whatever
it just doesn't seem like I'm a very effective communicator about it when it comes to you
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
I’m just pointing it out.
Are you not hesitant on claiming?
Mizery was and they aren’t mafia are they?
well if you were not busy spamming so much
you wouldn't have missed this
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
I honestly don't understand half the things said about me so far.
I should claim because on the chance that I claim X I'm somehow wolf?
Even if I did claim X, it would be incorrect, and if I am wolf why would I not claim anything else lmao?
Anyways, protectives should always be on Huo Huo given they can check. Me being killed + Huo Huo getting a check off would be quite optimal for fine-tuning the PoE.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
???? Didn't DM used to like me? what changed?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
*among the first people to claim d3 within POE, made a significant breadcrumb of it well before that, and claims action in first post of d4*
DM: You're too hesistant!
:judgement:
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
scumbot5679
???? Didn't DM used to like me? what changed?
I never said I townread you?
I was uncertain of you and now you are in PoE of 4 with 2 for sure wolves unless the team is MM/Hau.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
luka tough guy
martin soul mate (i think)
oliver vengeful
dark magician sappling
scumbot cat lady
am I missing something?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
We can agree it’s never Luka/Martin right?
Due to the lack of kills.
So in such case if Oliver and Scumbot aren’t hits it’s just MM/Tau?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
So Oliver gets executed and Venge kills Scumbot.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
luka tough guy
martin soul mate (i think)
oliver vengeful
dark magician sappling
scumbot cat lady
am I missing something?
Your correct here.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
the fact that both protectives AND Helz are alive is stunning to me
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Then when we do that Varcron targets MM and Martin if game doesn’t end?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
So here’s the plan:
Oliver Venge Kills Scumbot
Varcron goes MM and Martin
Tau goes MM and Luka
@Helz
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
the fact that both protectives AND Helz are alive is stunning to me
hence why I think this may be useful to think about
I haven't really perfected it but I think we may be able to work something out that sorts out Me/Luka, and if not, will generate problems for our hypothetical partners
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
Suggestion.
I think there's a point to not killing Me or Luka today (including trying to do it via Oliver's vengeful), because since we're both claiming protectives we can pre-emptively claim to protect either Helz or Huo Hou.
That way mafia's forced to kill one of us, or outside of us and Helz/Huo Huo (in other words, must night-kill one of Martin/Luka/Oliver/Marshmallow/Scumbot or possibly forsake the kill). If either the planned protects die then their protector is instantly outed. Interference like role-blocks from Cat Lady are very unlikely (or impossible) to happen without some mech info (or lack there-of) to corroborate it.
I don't know what we should suggest with the Evil Teacher kill though. I haven't fully mathed it all out. But I suspect there might be some combo we can work out where it easily limits the mechanical hypothetical worlds where I am a wolf, and if I am somehow a wolf, it would be quite devastating to my team's position.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
That way we win automatically mechanically.
I think…
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
I have 0 control over oliverz ability so if he decides to kill me then he just does but if he were a town vengeful then he shouldn't b/c I'm town and I just don't understand why anyone thinks I'm not. I kinda get MM's though since guy is mad that I've been calling him scum since d2.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
Actually you both need to protect Helz for this to work.
Helz’s survival is key here.
@Martin
@Luka
Protect Helz Tonight.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
If there's any plan that can auto-win regardless of any one's alignment, then I'm all for it.
Especially if it'd get DM to shoot down his own self-absorbed ego-addicted belief that I'm wolf.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
@Scum
bot
If your town then it’s likely just Oliver as the wolf anyways.
Again, see what’s left after you and Oliver:
Helz
2 Protective Claims
2 Same Alignment Checks
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
If there's any plan that can auto-win regardless of any one's alignment, then I'm all for it.
Especially if it'd get DM to shoot down his own self-absorbed ego-addicted belief that I'm wolf.
Never called you a wolf.
I said you can be one mechanically.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
Also as soon as a wolf flips anywhere in the 4, MM and Tau are confirmed town.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
Never called you a wolf.
I said you can be one mechanically.
hasn't felt like its been viewed merely as simple mechanical possibility, but regardless
its just that I had hopes some of the things I've done would be seen as town-read worthy and getting called wolf in basically every mention of my name since then kinda just makes for an irritating and frustrating situation lol.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
@powerofdeath
does cat lady's cat get sent if they submit the action during the day but die sometime later at EoD?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
scumbot5679
I have 0 control over oliverz ability so if he decides to kill me then he just does but if he were a town vengeful then he shouldn't b/c I'm town and I just don't understand why anyone thinks I'm not. I kinda get MM's though since guy is mad that I've been calling him scum since d2.
Well basically if MM is a wolf it has to be exactly with Tau Tau.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
@
powerofdeath
does cat lady's cat get sent if they submit the action during the day but die sometime later at EoD?
Actually wait I don't think there's a situation where that's useful
Any chance it would be would need the catlady to be alive to report any info recieved
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
I also forgot to put it in green smh.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
scumbot5679
I have 0 control over oliverz ability so if he decides to kill me then he just does but if he were a town vengeful then he shouldn't b/c I'm town and I just don't understand why anyone thinks I'm not. I kinda get MM's though since guy is mad that I've been calling him scum since d2.
make me believe you are not frozen.
MM can't be mafia if what Mizery said is true because I'm town and from outsider pov makes sense because there was no indication of an evil teacher after night 1, so mizery must have targeted 2 people with the same alignment
only options rn are:
oliver
scumbot
dark magician
luka
martin
you are one of those so if you are not scum the poe is smaller for you
we can also clear magician with helz bride to make it 4 which would leave only 3 spaces for the 2 town among you
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
IMO one of the protectives HAS to be true, because mafia didn't kill me or helz
so 1 town in martin/luka
1 town in scumbot/oliver
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
IMO one of the protectives HAS to be true, because mafia didn't kill me or helz
so 1 town in martin/luka
1 town in scumbot/oliver
as in they feared i/helz would be protected
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
make me believe you are not frozen.
i let it go
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
@
powerofdeath
does cat lady's cat get sent if they submit the action during the day but die sometime later at EoD?
No, the cat will mourns and go cry somewhere
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
IMO one of the protectives HAS to be true, because mafia didn't kill me or helz
so 1 town in martin/luka
1 town in scumbot/oliver
I am way ahead of you lol.
I also said the same thing but I then also restated it can just be: Scumbot/Oliver
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
powerofdeath
No, the cat will mourns and go cry somewhere
why would ANYONE want to do that to my poor kitty?
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
I am way ahead of you lol.
I also said the same thing but I then also restated it can just be: Scumbot/Oliver
yeah that's true
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
yeah DM is waaaay ahead of everyone here
I'm starting to connect the dots, its preety clever
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
the loldog is lolcatting.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
So here’s the plan:
Oliver Venge Kills Scumbot
Varcron goes MM and Martin
Tau goes MM and Luka
@
Helz
@Varcron
also Helz just bride Dark Magician, unless you want to risk it for the biscuit and check someone rn
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
My god this SoD was so spammy for a site like this lol.
There were a few bits of important information in all of that.
Like Miz's claim about what kills they were responsible for and that apparently they tried to kill MM and Huo on (by process of elimination I assume) n1.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
But yeah if mafia's made no kills its probably just Oli/Luka or something like that.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
So here’s the plan:
Oliver Venge Kills Scumbot
Varcron goes MM and Martin
Tau goes MM and Luka
@
Helz
I’m more confident simply lynching Scumbot hits mafia.
Really not about lynching a town to kill another player. We just kill that player instead and keep our townie.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Huo Huo and Mr Tail
@
Varcron
also Helz just bride Dark Magician, unless you want to risk it for the biscuit and check someone rn
Without the BH I’m probably going to live long time. I want to save that 1 shot for end game if it’s needed and I really don’t think DM needs checked. They are town and that would be a waste.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
yeah DM is waaaay ahead of everyone here
I'm starting to connect the dots, its preety clever
I’m a very Underated player tbh and people call me “egotistical”
I don’t try to me, I just go with what I think.
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Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3
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Originally Posted by
Helz
Without the BH I’m probably going to live long time. I want to save that 1 shot for end game if it’s needed and I really don’t think DM needs checked. They are town and that would be a waste.
It’s not a waste in case someone gets sceptical.
You should use it on me.