S-FM 114: Pursuit of Happiness

[Gerik]

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22085-S-FM-Pursuit-of-Happiness)

Players:

1. Sen
2. powerofdeath
3. Cryptonic
4. NoctiZ
5. Ganondorf
6. Hypersniper
7. Bunny
8. Banshis
9. Azuriae
10. Slaol

6

Day ends at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12am+cst+october+10th).

Commence.

[Slaol]

fuck

[Slaol]

Role Swag as fuck coming shortly.

[NoctiZ]

I'm on a pursuit of happiness..

[Sen]

Ganondorf
He's a threat to the morals of the nation's youth.

[Slaol]

So. Here is the deal. The most effective way to win this game is to mass marines.

Basically, no matter what role we pick, if we all end up as the same role we will most likely win.

Doctors, chain heal.
Vigilantes, 5 KPN (counting Lynch).
Escorts, "#lolwhatmafiakill"
Sheriffs, mass information
Blacksmiths, instant confirmability through trackable feedback
Bodyguards, 1for1 the mafia to death.

Coroner, fuck that, useless
Detective, fuck that, Sheriff OP in this game
Journalist, fuck that, Sheriff OP

So. Here is my suggested plan of attack.

1: We decide what course of action we take.
2: We, unless that role to begin with, spam our role change ability to become roles with trackable feedback.
- Blacksmith, Escort, Journalist, Vigilante.
3: Once we are trackable roles, we can then speak and direct and coordinate the role changes effectively. This will take a few days, but we won't be useless roles in that time, and can utilize the time effectively even while buffing our late game. As well, we will be at a low chance for mislynch since we will have trackable feedback to somewhat confirm our power role status.

In Gerik's, basically failed, S-FM Democracy the Town wanted to all spam Escorts to prevent kills, but in the end the Town didn't commit and the structure was so poor that a no-killing-2-blackmailing-lurking-mafia defeated them by literally just not talking. Fuck that.

Let's start the ball rolling.

The power role claiming you think you saw in this post was true. I will be changing to Blacksmith today.

[Slaol]

With that I suggest something happen.

There are 9 players in the player list other than myself. Now that I am out of the discussion we will do something.

These players will become Vigilante (unless Vigilante)
1. Sen
2. powerofdeath
3. Cryptonic

These players will become Escort (unless Escort)
4. NoctiZ
5. Ganondorf
6. Hypersniper

These players will become Journalist (unless Journalist)
7. Bunny
8. Banshis
9. Azuriae


Now what we have is 2 things.
1: By tomorrow we will all most likely be stand alone trackable roles.
2: If any role changes fail we will know that the players in our bracket contain another Power Role.

[Ganondorf]

Ganondorf
He's a threat to the morals of the nation's youth.

Umm, what were you saying?

What you have said is un-American and you will have your day when the governm-

Oh wait, they're shut down...

[Sen]

Umm, what were you saying?

What you have said is un-American and you will have your day when the governm-

Oh wait, they're shut down...

See what I mean?
Your subversive, communist behaviour will not be tolerated.



Slaol, I'm kind of lost here.
If two Middle Class pick the same role, they will get roleblocked, so if any of your groups include two Middle Class and a mafia, that would basically result in the TPRs being roleblocked while the mafia gets through with their night action.

Am I missing something?

[Slaol]

Slaol, I'm kind of lost here.
If two Middle Class pick the same role, they will get roleblocked, so if any of your groups include two Middle Class and a mafia, that would basically result in the TPRs being roleblocked while the mafia gets through with their night action.

Am I missing something?

Apparently you are missing that the TPRs would gain information about the players in there little bracket. They would have failed to change roles, but would know that another TPR was within their bracket. This potentially sacrifices night actions in terms of becoming the same, spammed, role. But it is not an entirely wasted night since we will learn about the players in our 3-man-bracket.

[Ganondorf]

See what I mean?
Your subversive, communist behaviour will not be tolerated.


Slaol, I'm kind of lost here.
If two Middle Class pick the same role, they will get roleblocked, so if any of your groups include two Middle Class and a mafia, that would basically result in the TPRs being roleblocked while the mafia gets through with their night action.

Am I missing something?

Anyone who calls me un-American is un-American!

Also lol Slaol epic beast mode roleclaim. If we're going to determine what roles people go, I would recommend assigning a unique role to each person (ie 6 people take your 6 "useful" roles and the other 3 don't do anything tonight: rotate tomorrow).

[Ganondorf]

To be honest, I really don't like the idea of having a blacksmith in the game. First off, the blacksmith runs the risk of distributing supplies to the enemy combatants. Also, it gives the enemy combatants an opening to give someone a bad gun. In my opinion, vigilante/doctor > blacksmith.

[Slaol]

Anyone who calls me un-American is un-American!

Also lol Slaol epic beast mode roleclaim. If we're going to determine what roles people go, I would recommend assigning a unique role to each person (ie 6 people take your 6 "useful" roles and the other 3 don't do anything tonight: rotate tomorrow).

That plan, while possibly making my planning efforts useless xD, could work, however your plan allows more room for error I feel.
Mine we either all become trackable roles tomorrow, or learn that another TPR is in our bracket, which is information almost equivalent to a Detective.

[Slaol]

To be honest, I really don't like the idea of having a blacksmith in the game. First off, the blacksmith runs the risk of distributing supplies to the enemy combatants. Also, it gives the enemy combatants an opening to give someone a bad gun. In my opinion, vigilante/doctor > blacksmith.

Doctor is a shit role when put up against a role with auto-confirmability. Vigilante we could hear, but it's confirmabilty only follows shooting. Something I am not personally good at. (please see S-FM Half-Life 3)

[Sen]

I see.
I'm kind of tires right now.

Will emulate the scenarios tomorrow and see if there are no obvious issues with the plan.

If you're going Blacksmith, I guess you're giving a vest as your confirmation item, since the mafia can also give guns.

[Sen]

tired*

[Ganondorf]

Doctor is a shit role when put up against a role with auto-confirmability. Vigilante we could hear, but it's confirmabilty only follows shooting. Something I am not personally good at. (please see S-FM Half-Life 3)

While doctor and vigilante are harder and/or more risky to confirm, I believe it's a tradeoff: you sacrifice easy confirmability in lieu of safer night actions. I'm fine with your list of 3 roles to switch to, but I'd drop the escort in favor of a sheriff (I don't think roleblocks will be as useful on N1 as a sheriff read could be).

[Ganondorf]

My scum predictions:
1) Cryptonic
2) Azuriae
3) NoctiZ

If I'm right I take Raptor's place as admin right? kthxbai

[Sen]

Anyway. I hope there aren't any lurkers here.
Those who have played with me must know that lurking and having me as a vigilante would not be good for your health.

[Ganondorf]

Anyway. I hope there aren't any lurkers here.
Those who have played with me must know that lurking and having me as a vigilante would not be good for your health.

*hinthintwinkwinknudgenudgesaynomoresaynomore*

[Slaol]

Ganon, you of all people would know that a Mafia can win easily by faking Sheriff these days. (POD, that is)

Feedback, or what I like to call, 'host-talk' is one of the most powerful things for a Town. Your willingness to give that away is interesting.

Ganondorf

Sheriff is an easily fakeable role. Not only could we lose the night actions to the role block in the same fashion as if people took Escort, but the end result would be more roles easily false claimed.

[Sen]

To be fair, all roles in this game are easily fakeable.
Even a Drug Dealer can fake a Blacksmith's vest. The rest have a scum counterpart.

If anything, the only thin that the mafia can't fake easily is a detective confirmed by others, or a doctor after saving someone(if the target gets healed feedback).

[Ganondorf]

Sheriffs, mass information
Detective, fuck that, Sheriff OP in this game
Journalist, fuck that, Sheriff OP


Ganon, you of all people would know that a Mafia can win easily by faking Sheriff these days. (POD, that is)

Feedback, or what I like to call, 'host-talk' is one of the most powerful things for a Town. Your willingness to give that away is interesting.

Ganondorf

Sheriff is an easily fakeable role. Not only could we lose the night actions to the role block in the same fashion as if people took Escort, but the end result would be more roles easily false claimed.

:huh:

Sheriff is OP: sure, false claiming sheriff can buy you an extra day or two, but I don't foresee that being an issue this game. Escorts have the potential to act against the town by roleblocking a town role, whereas sheriffs will always receive good information (because framers suck). Save the escort for N2 when we have a general idea of how people will flip.

[Ganondorf]

inb4 mafia NK and claim drug dealer who healed so-and-so

[Slaol]

Rainbow

Hey, host fag. Why did you 1: give Citizens last wills, 2: cycle day at midnight if you 3: are planning on modkilling people who dont post enough?

[Ganondorf]

inb4 mafia NK and claim drug dealer who healed so-and-so

Claim doctor (is drug dealer) who "healed" so-and-so

[Sen]

Claim doctor (is drug dealer) who "healed" so-and-so

Right. So the only confirmable TPR would be a detective who gives feedback on who another confirmed TPR visited the last night.

I'll just rely on the good old scumhunting.
PRs are overrated.

[Slaol]

Save the escort for N2 when we have a general idea of how people will flip.

Wtf does this mean? You said something about Sheriffs having n1 leads, but you ask people in group 2 to become Sheriffs. They can not have information n1 then. And an Escort going on n2 would not be able to block until n3. This shows a severe lack of preemptive planning. Coordination is best. Sheriff is pretty OP in its best case, but also easily faked. Would you feel we are best served steering towards all Sheriffs in the end?

[Ganondorf]

1) I see nothing to suggest that a middle class who successfully role changes cannot use his ability that night.
2) I would say, if anything, that we have the sheriffs early and then move to vigs/bodyguards/docs at the end

[Slaol]

Right. So the only confirmable TPR would be a detective who gives feedback on who another confirmed TPR visited the last night.

I'll just rely on the good old scumhunting.
PRs are overrated.

Framers can effect Detectives genius. Gerik's shit is pretty all around in making nothing trackable.
The solution, give Town the maximum amount of host information to sift through and make a proper decision on once we have it to look at. Either scum take trackable roles to attempt to break up the TPRs, or they take feedback less roles and we can operate easily.

[Slaol]

1) I see nothing to suggest that a middle class who successfully role changes cannot use his ability that night.
2) I would say, if anything, that we have the sheriffs early and then move to vigs/bodyguards/docs at the end

You are right, fuck me I forgot the change is at end of day. Fuck.

Sheriffs early is reasonable, however as this is an S-FM it will likely only go up to ~4 days maximum. This plan is to be short lived.

Perhaps we establish that particular roles do something.
i.e. Coroners get the fuck out of dodge, Detectives become Sheriffs, Sheriffs become Vigilante after finding a lead.

Stuff like this might work.

[Slaol]

More evolved plan.

- TPRs -
Blacksmith, Bodyguard, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Journalist, Sheriff, Vigilante

Sheriffs: stay sheriffs until you find a lead, pass it off during the day as a read, then become a Vigilante and kill that person if we dont lynch them.
Detective: Become Sheriff asap. You shit in this game, especially with Framer affecting Detectives
Doctor: Stay Doctor until you can confirm someone via saving them. Then become Bodyguard.
Escort: You probably good.
Coroners: Odds are they have a Janitor, but you are useless on n1, so become an Escort or something.
Blacksmiths: I fucking love Blacksmiths, so fuck you guys stay blacksmith. Also, i'm not entirely sure the Drug Dealer fake gun will be hard to figure out.

[Slaol]

OK, so Ganondorf's words made sense to improve my plan. I'll give a nigga some grace on having different opinions, should really learn the power of feedback though. Feedback is outrageously OP.

[Sen]

Framers can effect Detectives genius. Gerik's shit is pretty all around in making nothing trackable.
Ah, well. I should get some sleep.

[Sen]

Hypersniper
Night.

[Ganondorf]

More evolved plan.

- TPRs -
Blacksmith, Bodyguard, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Journalist, Sheriff, Vigilante

Sheriffs: stay sheriffs until you find a lead, pass it off during the day as a read, then become a Vigilante and kill that person if we dont lynch them.
Detective: Become Sheriff asap. You shit in this game, especially with Framer affecting Detectives
Doctor: Stay Doctor until you can confirm someone via saving them. Then become Bodyguard.
Escort: You probably good.
Coroners: Odds are they have a Janitor, but you are useless on n1, so become an Escort or something.
Blacksmiths: I fucking love Blacksmiths, so fuck you guys stay blacksmith. Also, i'm not entirely sure the Drug Dealer fake gun will be hard to figure out.

Fair enough: I see nothing horribly wrong standing out at me.

Slaol, it's not that I don't appreciate feedback, it's just that I personally prefer (and am better acquainted with) the typical "x says y is scum, what is x?" gameplay and I am even more comfortable when there are vigilantes/detectives present to supplement the PRs' powers.

[Slaol]

Fuck this shit for the evening. Guys, you need to make 10 effective posts or get modkilled. Gerik isnt fucking around!

[Hypersniper]

Hi I just woke up since I live in good ol brittainia

I'm not sure if sen is pressure voting or just voting

[Hypersniper]

More evolved plan.

- TPRs -
Blacksmith, Bodyguard, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Journalist, Sheriff, Vigilante

Sheriffs: stay sheriffs until you find a lead, pass it off during the day as a read, then become a Vigilante and kill that person if we dont lynch them.
Detective: Become Sheriff asap. You shit in this game, especially with Framer affecting Detectives
Doctor: Stay Doctor until you can confirm someone via saving them. Then become Bodyguard.
Escort: You probably good.
Coroners: Odds are they have a Janitor, but you are useless on n1, so become an Escort or something.
Blacksmiths: I fucking love Blacksmiths, so fuck you guys stay blacksmith. Also, i'm not entirely sure the Drug Dealer fake gun will be hard to figure out.

Oh and this plan is perfect

[Gerik]

Rainbow

Hey, host fag. Why did you 1: give Citizens last wills, 2: cycle day at midnight if you 3: are planning on modkilling people who dont post enough?

Because reasons.

[powerofdeath]

Is this the game? Why the fuck is there no SFM 115 or whatever?

[Cryptonic]

GOOD MORNING!

Herro I'm an important town power role, doc on me pls. Thank you, much appreciated.



I'll just rely on the good old scumhunting.
PRs are overrated.

Don't hate pls. TPR not overrated; it's not like you can't scum hunt AND have TPRs. But I see your softclaim, kthx.


My scum predictions:
1) Cryptonic
2) Azuriae
3) NoctiZ

If I'm right I take Raptor's place as admin right? kthxbai

Says I'm scum before I post!?!??!!
Anyways, drawing attention to yourself d1. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, SO I FORGIVE YOU!




Also @ Slaol, why would anybody turn to Sheriff today? I'm sure we started with a Sheriff, and all we're going to have is TPRs be blocked tonight because the Sheriff will just stick with it lol. Unless I'm reading this wrong...
Can we have multiple of the same TPR if they don't choose it on the same night? eg. We already have a Sheriff, someone changes to Sheriff = 2 Sheriffs?



Anyways, doc on me pls, ty

[Cryptonic]

Is this the game? Why the fuck is there no SFM 115 or whatever?

what a useless pos post. try again pls.
or are you just gonna talk about random things all game so ppl can't get reads on you?

[Bunny]

helllohello. just going to finish reading

[NoctiZ]

Slaol's plan is good. Don't know what else to say, will come back later with more thoughts.. hopefully.

[Azuriae]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cZRm9z2v0OE/Ue5NsdsI66I/AAAAAAAAN5Y/TtPuRowotH4/s1600/havin-a-giggle.gif

'Morning, guys and gals.

Let me read the few pages Montaron has missed.

[Ganondorf]

Hi I just woke up since I live in good ol brittainia

I'm not sure if sen is pressure voting or just voting

I take it back: anyone from the EU is scum.


Says I'm scum before I post!?!??!!
Anyways, drawing attention to yourself d1. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, SO I FORGIVE YOU!

No, I was using my powers of American intuition (which can only be acquired in the 17th best K-12 schooling system in the world) to make a (probably right) guess about who the mafia were so I could gain fame, fortune, and accolades when my guesses turned out to be inevitably right :D

I see nothing in the rules which expressly forbids having several of the same power role given the fact that only one person becomes that role each night. That being said, having a new sheriff for tonight would be helpful and we can get an escort N2.

[Sen]

I'm not sure if sen is pressure voting or just voting
I am an informed voter who knows what's best for the country.
I don't "just vote".

[Sen]

Don't hate pls. TPR not overrated; it's not like you can't scum hunt AND have TPRs. But I see your softclaim, kthx.
I don't softclaim.

Are you a communist?

[Cryptonic]

I don't softclaim.

Are you a communist?

Whatever you say, good sir. A slip is a slip is a slip! Whether you intended it or not, I received your msg.

[Cryptonic]

powerofdeath
prz tolk moh

[Hypersniper]

we have no lnfo so yeah ummm
can we skip

[Gerik]

Can we have multiple of the same TPR if they don't choose it on the same night? eg. We already have a Sheriff, someone changes to Sheriff = 2 Sheriffs?


Yes, that is correct.


we have no lnfo so yeah ummm
can we skip

Yes and no. You may vote to skip if you wish, however I cannot guarantee I will be available to end the day at whatever time the last person votes to skip, so keep that in mind.

[Sen]

we have no lnfo so yeah ummm
can we skip

^ Lynch this terrorist.

[Azuriae]

Hmmmkay.

Slaol's plan seems... intelligent enough.
I'm all up for going for it.

Also, Hyper, why would we want to skip? Have you also forgotten that this is a lynch day?

[Hypersniper]

oh its a lynch day nevermind then

[NoctiZ]

"Oh boy, they don't approve of me trying to steer the conversation towards skipping the day. Guess I wasn't subtle enough" said Hypersniper who was now trying to save face and cover by claiming it as a mistake.

[Cryptonic]

"Oh boy, they don't approve of me trying to steer the conversation towards skipping the day. Guess I wasn't subtle enough" said Hypersniper who was now trying to save face and cover by claiming it as a mistake.

will u b my friend?

[Cryptonic]

i rike the way u fink

[Ganondorf]

*PoD gets voted


we have no lnfo so yeah ummm
can we skip

>.>

Hypersniper

[Cryptonic]

*PoD gets voted



>.>

Hypersniper

Pod & Hyper c-c-c-c-combo w/ large fries and a coke?!

[Ganondorf]

So my running scum list ATM:
1) Hypersniper for being British and for the skip thingy
2) PoD in connection with Hypersniper
3) NoctiZ for being a dirty German

[Ganondorf]

Pod & Hyper c-c-c-c-combo w/ large fries and a coke?!

Dis guy is clean: most American meal there is

[Hypersniper]

lol u ganon
without britain you wouldent be American

[NoctiZ]

"Shh Ganon. I am not really German but don't tell anyone. I wouldn't want my cover blown, do you understand?" NoctiZ said in a thick and heavy German accent.

He then proceeded to acknowledge Cryptonic as a friend, happy to find such a genuine believer of the American way even if he was really a Canadian.

[powerofdeath]

Now i can get started, reading day.

[Ganondorf]

lol u ganon
without britain you wouldent be American

That doesn't make you American >.>

[Hypersniper]

ganon no america means no americans

[powerofdeath]

what a useless pos post. try again pls.
or are you just gonna talk about random things all game so ppl can't get reads on you?

When I woke up, I didnt notice this and by the time i have to leave for school, I noticed this SFM. I was kinda annoyed that I couldnt read this thread this morning when I couldve.

[powerofdeath]

powerofdeath
prz tolk moh

Im at school, still at school waiting for the other team

[powerofdeath]

*PoD gets voted



>.>

Hypersniper

The fuck dude? I can defend myself perfectly fine

[powerofdeath]

Pod & Hyper c-c-c-c-combo w/ large fries and a coke?!

No

[powerofdeath]

Anyway, after reading sloal's plan, I highly suspect he is the Drug Dealer.

Slaol

Drug Dealer may give out fake feedback, hide the feedbacks, or may give an opposite gun once per game.
Opposite gun look like BS gun and if you tried to shoot someone with it, you will blow up instead.

[powerofdeath]

While hes telling everyone to pick a role and hide in the BS so he could just live until the end with a free win.

[Slaol]

we have no lnfo so yeah ummm
can we skip

Hypersniper


Anyway, after reading sloal's plan, I highly suspect he is the Drug Dealer.

Slaol

Drug Dealer may give out fake feedback, hide the feedbacks, or may give an opposite gun once per game.
Opposite gun look like BS gun and if you tried to shoot someone with it, you will blow up instead.

Holy shit, we've got a new Titus.

Well, while the evolved plan somewhat defeated the point of my claim :/ give it a second on the FoS and actually try to figure out what is going on why don't you?

[Slaol]

I'm off to work and then possibly dinner and stuff and things. I'll check in some at work but at mostly random.

[Cryptonic]

The fuck dude? I can defend myself perfectly fine

he's not defending you lol no need to get so defensive!

[Slaol]

The fuck dude? I can defend myself perfectly fine

That's one hard response to overbuddying.

Ganon+POD are scum together? JUST LIKE LAST GAME :D

[Azuriae]

I should be on that scum list for being French Canadian.

[Ganondorf]

I should be on that scum list for being French Canadian.

Suit yourself.


That's one hard response to overbuddying.

Ganon+POD are scum together? JUST LIKE LAST GAME :D

DON'T MAKE ME BLACKMAIL YOU!!!

[Azuriae]

I don't like PoD's accusation. Discrediting the whole plan JUST because he thinks Slaol may be a drug dealer? Even if he was, the results for the of the three groups would be good. And that's a big IF Slaol is a Drug Dealer.

Immediately jumping on Slaol's back over this is more than suspicious.

[Sen]

> At least 10 good posts everyday.

I feel that two replacements won't be enough.

I don't know how confident I'm about the votes on Hypersniper, including my own.
He's always getting replaced, modkilled or used as an easy mislynch because he never scumhunts and pretty much only joins games to spam.

Slaol and Ganondorf jumping in the train triggered a couple of alarms.

On the other hand, there's the fact that Hypersniper would certainly be that obvious as scum.

[Azuriae]

> At least 10 good posts everyday.

I feel that two replacements won't be enough.

I don't know how confident I'm about the votes on Hypersniper, including my own.
He's always getting replaced, modkilled or used as an easy mislynch because he never scumhunts and pretty much only joins games to spam.

Slaol and Ganondorf jumping in the train triggered a couple of alarms.

On the other hand, there's the fact that Hypersniper would certainly be that obvious as scum.

My thoughts, too.

I haven't played many S-FMs lately, but everyone seems to always be ganging up on him. If we don't settle on anyone else, I don't mind going for him, but meh. I'm wary.

[Cryptonic]

My thoughts, too.

I haven't played many S-FMs lately, but everyone seems to always be ganging up on him. If we don't settle on anyone else, I don't mind going for him, but meh. I'm wary.

"If everyone else is down for it, I'll vote him, too." - every scum ever

[Hypersniper]

anyway my scumlist is

POD
GANON
AZURIE

[NoctiZ]

I think we can all agree that Slaol's plan is good regardless of his alignment and that pod is just paranoid. Atleast that's what I believe. Don't think pod is scum as of yet.

[Banshis]

Ok I am back and read. First off I like Slaol's plan.

Secondly, I don't like the question about skipping because when you read the first post it says that it is 6 votes to lynch and it isn't that hard to miss.

Lastly, I feel like PoD is having paranoia about the plan. It is good. Gonna look into the plan a bit more.

[Ganondorf]

I claim Doctor

[Sen]

I claim Doctor
I'd like you to be my doctor and prove that you're something more than a non-beiever commie.
The rest can have Obamacare.

[Cryptonic]

I'd like you to be my doctor and prove that you're something more than a non-beiever commie.
The rest can have Obamacare.

nope doc is healing me tonight :>

[Azuriae]

"If everyone else is down for it, I'll vote him, too." - every scum ever

And then he flips scum and we laugh at you.

You're not taking into account the current situation.
I'd honestly lynch anyone here than go with a no lynch day today.

And Hyper, It's Azuriae* for you. But thank for your elaborate reads and contribution.

[Bunny]

i find reads to be pretty hard to get on the first day, since everyone acts different then they will tomorrow. PoD is acting pretty defensive though.

[Ganondorf]

I claim Doctor

Oh crap that was intended for S-FM 115 lol

[Cryptonic]

And then he flips scum and we laugh at you.

You're not taking into account the current situation.
I'd honestly lynch anyone here than go with a no lynch day today.

And Hyper, It's Azuriae* for you. But thank for your elaborate reads and contribution.

Lol so you're sure he's gonna flip scum?
Also, what is the current situation, in your eyes?

[Azuriae]

Lol so you're sure he's gonna flip scum?
Also, what is the current situation, in your eyes?

No, but he hasn't given anything else than ''HERE'S MY SCUMLIST'' since the spotlight was put on him. Doesn't look too good for him right now.

And I can't say much about said situation, other than if you manage to get hammered on Day 1 by the majority, then you probably deserve or were scummy as fuck.

[NoctiZ]

Yeah, I don't really like Ganondorf's play so far, whether he has been doing it conciously or not. He calls attention to himself and I don't quite like it is all I want to say though.

[Cryptonic]

But, you specifically said I'M not taking into account the current situation? What did you mean by that?

[Azuriae]

But, you specifically said I'M not taking into account the current situation? What did you mean by that?

http://i.imgur.com/7C4Y8ww.gif

[NoctiZ]

http://i.imgur.com/7C4Y8ww.gif

I had to look at this 3 times. I love shibes.

[Ganondorf]

I don't really think my play is all that bad NoctiZ. Although I may not be so... quiet, I have at least contributed what I could contribute (much more than almost everyone else in the game so far) and I've been available to contribute more if other people would actually speak. My play hasn't been intended to draw attention to myself (or has it? >.>): sometimes, a bit of early game theme-trolling can be fun, and any form of conversation will inevitably spark relevant game discussion. Diversifying my play style has been one of my recent goals as both town and scum (as demonstrated by my last 2 S-FMs), so don't expect right-down-to-business scumhunt-all-the-scums-day-1 Ganondof from my every post. Of course I will take advantage of a game like this to demonstrate my patriotism and spread the glorious religion of Americanism to the world. Carry on now :D

[Sen]

available to contribute more if other people would actually speak.
This. This a thousand times.

Don't let this become another game full of lurkers where the end result is pretty much random since half of the players were lurking and the active ones got killed on the first days.

[powerofdeath]

Not defensive, aggressive.
Im not defending against Hyper when hes trying to fos the person who fos me.
But he fos me now like a sheep he is.

[Sen]

There are like five hours left.
At a quick glance, it seems that three or four players would get modkilled, if the day ended right now.

[Cryptonic]

Not defensive, aggressive.
Im not defending against Hyper when hes trying to fos the person who fos me.
But he fos me now like a sheep he is.

Someone said something, you reacted defensively. You can't react aggressively lol.

[Sen]

Someone said something, you reacted defensively. You can't react aggressively lol.
You can, actually, but this wasn't the case.

[powerofdeath]

Someone said something, you reacted defensively. You can't react aggressively lol.

Defensive FoS? Wut?

[Sen]

Anyway. Any objections in lynching Hypersniper?
If not, add your votes.

[Cryptonic]

Suuuuure why not
Hypersniper

[powerofdeath]

Suuuuure why not
Hypersniper

What a sheepy vote...

[Cryptonic]

What a sheepy vote...

are you just gonna be retarded the entire game, or something?

[powerofdeath]

are you just gonna be retarded the entire game, or something?

Fuck you too

[Azuriae]

Suuuuure why not
Hypersniper

And you were giving me shit for it?

Wow, Crypt. You disappoint doge.

[Cryptonic]

And you were giving me shit for it?

Wow, Crypt. You disappoint doge.

When did I give you shit for anything in this game? O.o

[Cryptonic]

OH WOW
I thought you were Slaol LOL

I didn't give you shit, I was just questioning as to why you were so certain to thought he was scum.
Inquiring = giving shit? Lol

[Cryptonic]

Anyways, I have never expressed unwillingness to lynch Hypersniper, only the want to lynch PoD more. I have just been questioning voters, in case he flips town; then at least it'll be easier to tell people apart.

I agree that Hypersniper is scummy, but he's always scummy so it's usually hard to tell his alignment. Since the PoD lynch obviously won't happen, I don't mind throwing my vote onto a scummy person that majority of us want to lynch (and possibly could, since there are enough votes).

[Azuriae]

OH WOW
I thought you were Slaol LOL

I didn't give you shit, I was just questioning as to why you were so certain to thought he was scum.
Inquiring = giving shit? Lol

No no no.
You were giving me shit.
Don't look at me like that.

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/3/34/Doge_(1).jpg/264px-Doge_(1).jpg

[Banshis]

Anyways, I have never expressed unwillingness to lynch Hypersniper, only the want to lynch PoD more. I have just been questioning voters, in case he flips town; then at least it'll be easier to tell people apart.

I agree that Hypersniper is scummy, but he's always scummy so it's usually hard to tell his alignment. Since the PoD lynch obviously won't happen, I don't mind throwing my vote onto a scummy person that majority of us want to lynch (and possibly could, since there are enough votes).

I'll be here to vote onto Hypersniper although he always makes himself look scummy in the beginning of games so it depends if we think he is scum this time. PoD is both defensive and aggresive about being accused which I don't like. He was defensive and when questioned about it he acted out. It seems a little off for a town to be like that.

[Cryptonic]

No no no.
You were giving me shit.
Don't look at me like that.

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/3/34/Doge_(1).jpg/264px-Doge_(1).jpg

:3 hehehehehe

and i wasn't! I was seriously just wondering why you were so certain he was scum. Then you said i'm not taking into account the current situation, so I asked what the current situation was!

If asking you questions is giving you shit, then prepare to get a lot of shit this game :3

[Cryptonic]

I'll be here to vote onto Hypersniper although he always makes himself look scummy in the beginning of games so it depends if we think he is scum this time. PoD is both defensive and aggresive about being accused which I don't like. He was defensive and when questioned about it he acted out. It seems a little off for a town to be like that.

That's what I'm sayin'! That's why I had my vote on him, but it seemed wasted so I moved it over :(

[Slaol]

Somewhat unrelated question. I leave Sc2 Mafia signed in on my phone all day. Does it show me as reading at all times?

Mostly related question. Fuck hypersniper, I don't have much to say other than I am glad most people agree with my role 'evolution' process. POD thinks I am Drug Dealer, and that isn't an insane stance with my role claim. However, I'm not sure if he is scum or mostly paranoid. However, Hypsersniper wanting to skip is fucking moronic and scummy and shit. Gotta get dat lynch faggots.

Coincidentally, this plan we are going to follow is probably about how Gerik wanted it to be played. He described this idea as "Dynamic Power Roles" back when he was planning it. So he is probably hoping people will shuffle and change as their needs evolve.

[Banshis]

That's what I'm sayin'! That's why I had my vote on him, but it seemed wasted so I moved it over :(

Powerofdeath

Gonna vote him and will change over if needed. He isn't acting pro-town so I'll leave it there for now.

[Azuriae]

:3 hehehehehe

and i wasn't! I was seriously just wondering why you were so certain he was scum. Then you said i'm not taking into account the current situation, so I asked what the current situation was!

If asking you questions is giving you shit, then prepare to get a lot of shit this game :3

I am prepared for the seas of shit.
I've got my eye on you.

Hypersniper

[Cryptonic]

Powerofdeath

Gonna vote him and will change over if needed. He isn't acting pro-town so I'll leave it there for now.

you give me hope

[powerofdeath]

Hypersniper

[The Godfather]

Hypersniper has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Hypersniper ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10021') (6 [L-0]): Sen ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387323'), Slaol ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387421'), Cryptonic ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387520'), Ganondorf ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387393'), powerofdeath ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387558'), Azuriae ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387549')
powerofdeath ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/3897') (1 [L-5]): Banshis ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387548')

[Gerik]

Hypersniper has been lynched. His role was: citizen.

Night ends at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12am+cst+october+11th&dataset=).

[Gerik]

powerofdeath was slain last night. He was but a citizen.

A last will was found on his body:


Took a bullet like a pro!

The daily news arrived this morning. It contained a single article:


heelo; i sturtd as n escurt and changd 2 doctir d1. i flet like da escurt wud hirt da town too much n1, cuz i mightbe a block a town. i m healn SEN 2nite, cuz he cud die :)

in this setup i wud feel that mafia has a frmr and a consort. bcuz thus r scary! i m worried if they took muldiple framer n consorts cause tht coudl rly mss us up on n1.

Roles List:

Citizen Hypersniper - lynched day 1
Citizen powerofdeath - killed night 1
Citizen
Middle Class
Middle Class
Middle Class
Middle Class

Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter

Living players:

1. Sen
2. Cryptonic
3. NoctiZ
4. Ganondorf
5. Bunny
6. Banshis
7. Azuriae
8. Slaol

5

[Ganondorf]

I received a one-use vest!

♥ Slaol (I think?) ♥ Is this the real life, is this just fantasy? ♥

[Banshis]

Nothing happened to me last night. When I get back home I will post more.

[Cryptonic]

good morning,

nothing happened to me last night. guess we'll wait for full feedback before doing anything, but I think we have a Corrupt Journalist. I would think that a Journalist would've changed to something else, but could easily see a Corrupt Journalist keep their role since the role card says they can interview & do the nightly kill.

[NoctiZ]

Hey guys, no feedback.

[Bunny]

hi, nothing here either!

[Cryptonic]

I think we should probably choose roles people become tonight. That way, none of us get roleblocked.

I was thinking of going Escort tonight. Blocking the kill would be extremely useful.
It'd be nice if we still had a Doctor, so maybe a Sheriff should change to that today. - We don't really need investigatives anymore... It's getting down so close to being 3v3 that we need Killing & Protective tonight.
Then, I think we should elect someone we all trust to go Vigilante to control a night kill. It's getting down too close for us not to use this tonight. Maybe votes for Vigilante in cyan? Doesn't have to be right away, but well before the end of the day would be good, so the player has time to PM the Host.

[Cryptonic]

waiiit nvm, that plan is shit.
Realized when I pressed Post that Mafia could just go Consort and block the Vigilante. Scrap the Vigilante part.

[Azuriae]

'Morning.

No feedback on my side either.

Also, I just broke my 4 S-FM streak of getting killed N1. Woop.

[Cryptonic]

'Morning.

No feedback on my side either.

Also, I just broke my 4 S-FM streak of getting killed N1. Woop.

hard to die n1 WHEN YOU'RE MAFIA!
Response?! Response?!

[Azuriae]

hard to die n1 WHEN YOU'RE MAFIA!
Response?! Response?!


http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/564/t0ZfPEZ_1_.gif

Close, but no cigar.
Montaron is your friend. Brings you the newspapers in the morning and all.
Best companion.

[Cryptonic]

I enjoy asking you questions, if only for the gifs

[Sen]

So... 4 TPRs and only one person got feedback?
Sounds legit.

[Ganondorf]

So... 4 TPRs and only one person got feedback?
Sounds legit.

USA! USA!

[Azuriae]

So... 4 TPRs and only one person got feedback?
Sounds legit.

What kind of feedback were you expecting? We don't have all that much that can give some.

Journalist, Escort (But as stated in the interview, the person changed to Doctor) and Blacksmith and Sheriff are the only feedback-giving roles we have.

I doubt a Sheriff would out himself so early unless he found scum, Our Escort has changed to Doctor last night (Or so he says...) and Ganon claimed he got an auto-vest. There was also an article.

[Azuriae]

What kind of feedback were you expecting? We don't have all that much that can give some.

Journalist, Escort (But as stated in the interview, the person changed to Doctor) and Blacksmith and Sheriff are the only feedback-giving roles we have.

I doubt a Sheriff would out himself so early unless he found scum, Our Escort has changed to Doctor last night (Or so he says...) and Ganon claimed he got an auto-vest. There was also an article.

For some reason I thought the vest was an auto-vest. My mistake. Would be kinda OP though.

[Bunny]

And then he [hypersniper] flips scum and we laugh at you.



lol sorry i just had to bring this up hahaha had a giggle.

[Cryptonic]

That's actually a good post to bring up.
Azuirae, why'd you want Hypersnip lynched so badly d1 D:

[Sen]

What kind of feedback were you expecting?
Anything from investigative roles.

I doubt a Sheriff would out himself so early unless he found scum
Why? Only citizens have last wills. Anyone who uses an investigative role at night should give their feedback the day after.

Our Escort has changed to Doctor last night (Or so he says...) and Ganon claimed he got an auto-vest. There was also an article.
I doubt the article was published by a TPR. Journalist is an useless role for Town in this setup.

[Azuriae]

lol sorry i just had to bring this up hahaha had a giggle.

That was 100% serious and I obviously knew Hypersniper's role in Day 1.
He was obviously the towniest player and gave us a really strong defense, crazy how much he tried to give us information or anything.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110723055236/glee/images/a/a3/Epic_sarcasm.gif

[Azuriae]

That's actually a good post to bring up.
Azuirae, why'd you want Hypersnip lynched so badly d1 D:

So badly? I said I didn't give a shit and I'd just vote him if that's what the majority wanted.

You two lovebirds ganging up on me. Now I'm the one having a giggle~

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrr2jc1k8n1qkmpj8o1_500.gif

[Bunny]

That was 100% serious and I obviously knew Hypersniper's role in Day 1.
He was obviously the towniest player and gave us a really strong defense, crazy how much he tried to give us information or anything.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110723055236/glee/images/a/a3/Epic_sarcasm.gif

lol playing the sarcasm card.. just admit your wrongness and move on. kthx

[Ganondorf]

I am wise in the ways of COM forum but noobish in the ways of the internet: can someone just tell me where you get all these GIFs?

[Ganondorf]

Also journalist is useless for both factions IMO. I really wish we had a lookout, though.

[Azuriae]

lol playing the sarcasm card.. just admit your wrongness and move on. kthx

Yeah, no.
Considering how incredibly useful you were on Day 1 and how generous your contributions were,

I'm not taking shit for you.
kthx.

[Azuriae]

Yeah, no.
Considering how incredibly useful you were on Day 1 and how generous your contributions were,

I'm not taking shit for you.
kthx.

from*, fuck.

@Ganon: Google.

[Bunny]

Yeah, no.
Considering how incredibly useful you were on Day 1 and how generous your contributions were,

I'm not taking shit for you.
kthx.

lol i think not participating in the needless lynch of town is more useful than what you did!

[Sen]

Also journalist is useless for both factions IMO.

Being sent for the kill does not affect its article
A CJ can kill while keeping their Journalist cover. Cryptonic already explained it some posts ago.

So we can be somehow confident that the one who published the article is scum.

[Bunny]

hmm anywho, are we just waiting for slaol to check in then? i think everyone else has

[Sen]

lol i think not participating in the needless lynch of town is more useful than what you did!

Not really. I don't see a reason why anyone would not vote Hypersniper when his posted nothing but useless one liners and the "skip day. hurr" thing.

Even if it was a mislynch, not voting him could easily be one of those common "See? I did not vote Town d1, I can't be scum" strategies.

[Sen]

he*

[Bunny]

Not really. I don't see a reason why anyone would not vote Hypersniper when his posted nothing but useless one liners and the "skip day. hurr" thing.

Even if it was a mislynch, not voting him could easily be one of those common "See? I did not vote Town d1, I can't be scum" strategies.

but i think whats been proven is that just because you're posting shit like that doesnt mean you're scum. Azuriae is saying oh why didnt he post info, like there obviously wasnt any info to post.. I just think poeple need to be mindful that scum are likely smarter than to just troll like that and bring attention to themselves in that fashion.

[Cryptonic]

Not really. I don't see a reason why anyone would not vote Hypersniper when his posted nothing but useless one liners and the "skip day. hurr" thing.

Even if it was a mislynch, not voting him could easily be one of those common "See? I did not vote Town d1, I can't be scum" strategies.

Showing awareness of one's votes, are yee?
Could easily be one of those common "Mafia wouldn't have voted Town d1, I can't be scum" strategies.

[Sen]

He was scummy and useless, but noone said that his posts were proof that he was scum.
I actually said that I wasn't confident about my vote on him. No lynch days are for plebs, and since I didn't have a case on anyone else, and he wasn't contributing, I didn't see a reason not to get him lynched.

Anyway. We're at MyLo (unless doc/escort/vig hit the right ones tonight).
The Mafia already knows who is Town, so there's no reason for people no keep information to themselves.

I'm the last Citizen, which means that all of you are either a TPR os scum.
Everyone must post what they did last night.

[Sen]

Showing awareness of one's votes, are yee?
Could easily be one of those common "Mafia wouldn't have voted Town d1, I can't be scum" strategies.

No. I'm quite sure that at least two Mafia voted him.
I already said why I did vote him.

[Bunny]

He was scummy and useless, but noone said that his posts were proof that he was scum.
I actually said that I wasn't confident about my vote on him. No lynch days are for plebs, and since I didn't have a case on anyone else, and he wasn't contributing, I didn't see a reason not to get him lynched.

Anyway. We're at MyLo (unless doc/escort/vig hit the right ones tonight).
The Mafia already knows who is Town, so there's no reason for people no keep information to themselves.

I'm the last Citizen, which means that all of you are either a TPR os scum.
Everyone must post what they did last night.

see i think the reason not to have lynched him yesterday was because it puts us at MyLo, for no reason. I think that scum is smarter than acting like an idiot in the way he was and are hiding as town leaders/power. I'd like to hear more from slaol, he made some big plan and has yet to show his face.

[Cryptonic]

He was scummy and useless, but noone said that his posts were proof that he was scum.
I actually said that I wasn't confident about my vote on him. No lynch days are for plebs, and since I didn't have a case on anyone else, and he wasn't contributing, I didn't see a reason not to get him lynched.

Anyway. We're at MyLo (unless doc/escort/vig hit the right ones tonight).
The Mafia already knows who is Town, so there's no reason for people no keep information to themselves.

I'm the last Citizen, which means that all of you are either a TPR os scum.
Everyone must post what they did last night.

See, you did softclaim Citizen d1. :3
I'd believe this claim over any other cc'ers.

I targeted Sen last night.

[Cryptonic]

see i think the reason not to have lynched him yesterday was because it puts us at MyLo, for no reason. I think that scum is smarter than acting like an idiot in the way he was and are hiding as town leaders/power. I'd like to hear more from slaol, he made some big plan and has yet to show his face.

This is actually very accurate. We probably should've looked at the big picture before lynching him. Even if we lynched him today, instead, it would've given us more time of obtain some feedback before lylo.

[Sen]

see i think the reason not to have lynched him yesterday was because it puts us at MyLo, for no reason. I think that scum is smarter than acting like an idiot in the way he was and are hiding as town leaders/power. I'd like to hear more from slaol, he made some big plan and has yet to show his face.

Yeah, that was an oversight. We might just have let him get replaced.
Anyway, too late to be sorry.

What role did you pick and who did you target?

See, you did softclaim Citizen d1. :3
I'd believe this claim over any other cc'ers.

I targeted Sen last night.
Don't tell... >___>

Anyway. So you're the one who got interviewed?

[Cryptonic]

Yeppers,
I was planning on lying in the interview because I thought it was a CJ, but I thought it'd be better to just claim in it since I was 99% sure that I would have to claim it today anyways.

I would like to hear more from Ganondorf, today. Maybe something with some substance.

[Cryptonic]

well day is half over, i'm going to lay some pressure down.
Ganondorf

[Azuriae]

Yeppers,
I was planning on lying in the interview because I thought it was a CJ, but I thought it'd be better to just claim in it since I was 99% sure that I would have to claim it today anyways.

I would like to hear more from Ganondorf, today. Maybe something with some substance.

My guts feeling was right, then. Interesting choice to give up Escort to go Doctor though.
On a side note, I kept my role last day.

But I would indeed love to hear more from Slaol and Ganon.


http://i.imgur.com/S4vBUi9.jpg

[Cryptonic]

My guts feeling was right, then. Interesting choice to give up Escort to go Doctor though.
On a side note, I kept my role last day.

But I would indeed love to hear more from Slaol and Ganon.

http://i.imgur.com/S4vBUi9.jpg

I guess it's interesting. I just felt that blocking a potential attack is better than blocking a potential TPR.

Who'd you target?

[Bunny]

Yeah, that was an oversight. We might just have let him get replaced.
Anyway, too late to be sorry.

What role did you pick and who did you target?



I'm bg, i kept my role and targeted my sweet Cryptonic! Slaols plan wanted me to change to journalist, but I felt this was much more useful

[Cryptonic]

ok, i just sent in confirmation to change back to Escort.
No one else be dumb enough to choose it, please.

[Sen]

On a side note, I kept my role last day.
Which role? Who did you target?

I'm not voting yet.
5 votes to lynch. 3 Mafia. We need to be sure before making any move.

[Cryptonic]

I'm bg, i kept my role and targeted my sweet Cryptonic! Slaols plan wanted me to change to journalist, but I felt this was much more useful

:love:
I was gonna heal you, bb, but I thought Sen was town cause of his softclaim, and thought he was more likely town =[

[Sen]

Cryptonic: Doctor -> Sen
Bunny: BG -> Cryptonic
Sen: Citizen -> ---
???: CJ -> Cryptonic

Will go do some things. Will be back in some 90 minutes.

[Cryptonic]

Which role? Who did you target?

I'm not voting yet.
5 votes to lynch. 3 Mafia. We need to be sure before making any move.

I'm just testing waters. I don't want you, specifically you, to vote Ganondorf

[Azuriae]

I guess it's interesting. I just felt that blocking a potential attack is better than blocking a potential TPR.

Who'd you target?

That is classified information. I want to hear from the others before I go through with this.
Don't worry, It won't change the results of anything. Except maybe if scum trips in their own lies and I catch them red handed. ;)

And interesting, I almost went Bodyguard myself.

[Azuriae]

Honestly though, I might have made a big mistake by keeping my role.

[Ganondorf]

Well if Sen is the last citizen: I am a Doctor and I was on day 1 as well (I healed NoctiZ last night). I don't regret lynching Hypersniper: he had it coming to him and we had no better leads (especially since my 2nd choice would've been the also-town PoD). My reasoning for saying CJ is useless: sure, you can kill and send an article, but what does it ultimately accomplish for the mafia? Nothing. That being said, the article is theirs because a TPR going journalist would be counterproductive. Biggest suspicion: I don't know yet (I'm feeling Cryptonic maybe?). Your move, other people.

[Cryptonic]

@ Ganondorf, I would think that CJ is more useful.. because if the Mafia wants to kill, they have to give up their night action. What does that accomplish? 1 Kill.
With a CJ doing the kill, they get 1 kill + an article.
That is definitely why I think a CJ is much more likely than a normal Journalist. Any town who would actually choose Journalist is insane.

PS let me know what I did that gave you this gut feeling on me, and I'll explain my actions.

PPS I totally forgot NoctiZ was in this game.

[NoctiZ]

lolol

I am Detective, I chose to keep my role atleast for last night. Followed Slaol, he visited Ganondorf so if he received a legit vest then Slaol is in the clear. Atleast we know that Ganon and Slaol cannot be both Mafia or atleast it would be very unlikely lol

[Azuriae]

Honestly though.

I think either Bunny or Ganon are lying. I really, really doubt Gerik would've given us BOTH protectives on Day 1. Both claim to have been BG and Doctor as their starting roles.

[Cryptonic]

Honestly though.

I think either Bunny or Ganon are lying. I really, really doubt Gerik would've given us BOTH protectives on Day 1. Both claim to have been BG and Doctor as their starting roles.

I'm not really sure that's a good argument, since everyone can just change roles. It seems like we didn't even start with a Sheriff, which is pretty much the strongest role we could've had d1.

[Azuriae]

I'm not really sure that's a good argument, since everyone can just change roles. It seems like we didn't even start with a Sheriff, which is pretty much the strongest role we could've had d1.

Who says we didn't?
We have yet to hear the role of some people, including mine.

[Azuriae]

I'm not really sure that's a good argument

(Honestly though I'm just saying this because I feel like Bunny is full of shit. Blame the guts.)

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1121713/DeBGf.gif

[Bunny]

(Honestly though I'm just saying this because I feel like Bunny is full of shit. Blame the guts.)

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1121713/DeBGf.gif

hmm then claim. or are you waiting until everyone else claims so you can concoct some story..

[Azuriae]

hmm then claim. or are you waiting until everyone else claims so you can concoct some story..

Typical.
My role has nothing to do with your night action.

I've already left a serious hint somewhere in my previous posts. It's so blatantly obvious, I wonder if you guys are even trying. I was almost hoping someone would call me out for it.

[Azuriae]

Yes, this is the time where you go read back every single post I've made and go ''Huuuh? Where?''

[Bunny]

Typical.
My role has nothing to do with your night action.

I've already left a serious hint somewhere in my previous posts. It's so blatantly obvious, I wonder if you guys are even trying. I was almost hoping someone would call me out for it.

blatantly obvious your tying to seem like journalist but are cj?

[Azuriae]

blatantly obvious your tying to seem like journalist but are cj?

Nice guess.
But not good enough.

[Azuriae]

I'm going Vigilante tonight.

[Cryptonic]

I'm going Vigilante tonight.

Either you're an incredibly dumb town, or scum trying to prevent town members from picking Vigilante.

[Azuriae]

(Read: I dare the Mafia to get a Consort and roleblock me.)

[Azuriae]

Either you're an incredibly dumb town, or scum trying to prevent town members from picking Vigilante.

http://tn.loljam.com/14/upload/post/201308/13/12639/a15e3915c7465dd6030f8cbb6bfaf1c8.gif

[Cryptonic]

(Read: No one else will pick Vigilante now that I've said I'm going to.)

Blocking the Vigilante's slot and refusing to claim a role until everyone has claimed, so you can't be cc'd..
Azuirae
Role and action now pls.

[Azuriae]

(Read: No one else will pick Vigilante now that I've said I'm going to.)

Blocking the Vigilante's slot and refusing to claim a role until everyone has claimed, so you can't be cc'd..
Azuirae
Role and action now pls.

It's Azuriae, you pleb.

[Cryptonic]

diarrhea for all i care lol

[Cryptonic]

Azuriae

[Sen]

Azuriae

Sounds like "I'll wait for everyone to claim and then pick something that fits".

[Azuriae]

diarrhea for all i care lol

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mer4monecl1qdhsxp.gif

[Azuriae]

If you guys bothered to read, I already soft claimed my role.

I was actually only waiting to see people's reactions to see who would focus me down.

I actually did get some sort of feedback last night. Mafia knows, and I wanted to see who would jump on me to try and pin me as the CJ (Bunny.)

I'm the Journalist that sent Crypt the article.

What I haven't said though, is that I also got an article myself, but I didn't send anything. When I kept my Journalist role, I didn't think about the CJ, much less that we would have both a Journalist AND a CJ on Day 1.

With that being said,

Bunny

Have fun, kiddos~

[Cryptonic]

If you guys bothered to read, I already soft claimed my role.

I was actually only waiting to see people's reactions to see who would focus me down.

I actually did get some sort of feedback last night. Mafia knows, and I wanted to see who would jump on me to try and pin me as the CJ (Bunny.)

I'm the Journalist that sent Crypt the article.

What I haven't said though, is that I also got an article myself, but I didn't send anything. When I kept my Journalist role, I didn't think about the CJ, much less that we would have both a Journalist AND a CJ on Day 1.

With that being said,

Bunny

Have fun, kiddos~

wat

[Azuriae]

wat

I am the MVP.

[Sen]

Claims so far:
Sen: Citizen -> ---
Cryptonic: Doctor -> Sen
Bunny: BG -> Cryptonic
Ganondorf: Doctor -> NoctiZ
NoctiZ: Detective -> Slaol
Azuriae: Journalist -> Cryptonic
???: Scum -> powerofdeath

Yet to claim:
Slaol: Blacksmith - Ganondorf
Banshis: ???

Not submitting an article leaves you with nothing but your word and a claim of the most useless role for the Town.

Why did you not submit an article?
Why did you pick the most useless role if you are Town?

[Cryptonic]

Not submitting an article leaves you with nothing but your word and a claim of the most useless role for the Town.

Why did you not submit an article?
Why did you pick the most useless role if you are Town?

Exactly. All we have is your word on it, and you have done nothing to show yourself as town. If you really got an interview, why didn't you say ANYTHING, at least to confirm your story =/

I don't see a reason anyone would stay Journalist when there is an abundance of useful TPRs.

[Bunny]

If you guys bothered to read, I already soft claimed my role.

I was actually only waiting to see people's reactions to see who would focus me down.

I actually did get some sort of feedback last night. Mafia knows, and I wanted to see who would jump on me to try and pin me as the CJ (Bunny.)

I'm the Journalist that sent Crypt the article.

What I haven't said though, is that I also got an article myself, but I didn't send anything. When I kept my Journalist role, I didn't think about the CJ, much less that we would have both a Journalist AND a CJ on Day 1.

With that being said,

Bunny

Have fun, kiddos~

mm no, i felt you working up to claiming journalist when you said you should have changed roles and we all know that a journalist wouldn't have kept their role.

[Azuriae]

Claims so far:
Sen: Citizen -> ---
Cryptonic: Doctor -> Sen
Bunny: BG -> Cryptonic
Ganondorf: Doctor -> NoctiZ
NoctiZ: Detective -> Slaol
Azuriae: Journalist -> Cryptonic
???: Scum -> powerofdeath

Yet to claim:
Slaol: Blacksmith - Ganondorf
Banshis: ???

Not submitting an article leaves you with nothing but your word and a claim of the most useless role for the Town.

Why did you not submit an article?
Why did you pick the most useless role if you are Town?

Being the Journalist myself, it was obvious that I was getting a CJ's article.
I thought I wouldn't reveal it to see who would try to pressure me down today, because I was obviously going to be Mafia's scapegoat. Bunny's aggressiveness towards me makes me think that she is most likely Mafia. This is all a pretty crazy plan, maybe even too crazy, but I just had to try it out.
And stop saying Journalist is a useless role. I did give my article to Crypt because I had a good vibe from him, and I was hoping he would claim in his article. I was going to go Bodyguard today and probably guard him.
Bunny's claim is unCC'able and is just too easy ''lol I guarded my boyfriend''

Load of bullshit.

[Azuriae]

Sorry if I'm not your standard FM player that just goes by the book and doesn't always try to follow the ''meta''.
I like to try shit and I won't hesitate to. if it's going to bite me in the ass, then be it.

[Azuriae]

Aaaand you all go quiet.
Even Ganon; I saw you lurking in here.
'sup man?

[Sen]

And stop saying Journalist is a useless role
It is on this setup.

A Journalist may be of use in a big game, where there might be PRs who would like to give feedback without outing themselves (Castle Varen, FM XIX), but a Journalist is entirely useless n1 in a game where you get to pick your role and where noone will have any feedback to communicate n1.

[Sen]

Especially when you could have picked a role which either protects or attacks.
I don't see any good reason to pick a Journalist for the first night, and a CJ makes more sense, since it allows you to claim Journalist while performing the factional kill.

Slaol and banshis. I summon thee!

[Banshis]

Well I am here and I decided to follow Slaol's plan. I was a coroner and I did take journalist. I was hoping if someone else took journalist too the same night then I would be roleblocked, but no one else took it from my group for the plan. I have no idea why I started as a coroner. It doesn't even look like there is a janitor. Now that all the roles are outted it is pointless to be a journalist because any investigatives can openly reveal their information. : /

[Azuriae]

Banshis

[Slaol]

Sorry for lack of activity. I'm sick and have started marathoning The Walking Dead.

Azuriae
Didn't submit an article? OK then.

I like how Sen lists me as having not claimed when I claimed yesterday. I sent Ganondorf the Vest.

[Slaol]

lolol

I am Detective, I chose to keep my role atleast for last night. Followed Slaol, he visited Ganondorf so if he received a legit vest then Slaol is in the clear. Atleast we know that Ganon and Slaol cannot be both Mafia or atleast it would be very unlikely lol

Did no on read this post?

This claim is super sketchy.
1: NoctiZ said he would follow my plan. My plan had Detectives becoming Sheriffs. There is no reason to be Detective.
2: The information he claimed he was basically all public to begin with.

I feel NoctiZ is trying to latch onto my generally d1 liked stance as he has used an incredibly easy faked claim to try and confirm both myself and Ganondorf.

/consider

[Slaol]

I'm bg, i kept my role and targeted my sweet Cryptonic! Slaols plan wanted me to change to journalist, but I felt this was much more useful

Did it? Fuck i'm retarded. Nevermind. Bodyguards > Jounralists

[NoctiZ]

Did no on read this post?

This claim is super sketchy.
1: NoctiZ said he would follow my plan. My plan had Detectives becoming Sheriffs. There is no reason to be Detective.
2: The information he claimed he was basically all public to begin with.

I feel NoctiZ is trying to latch onto my generally d1 liked stance as he has used an incredibly easy faked claim to try and confirm both myself and Ganondorf.

/consider
That wouldn't confirm you and Ganondorf as it would only confirm that you visited him. You could have drugged him for all we know. And Ganondorf could still be Mafia from my feedback alone. It only confirms that you both aren't Mafia together.

Besides, I didn't say I would follow it immediately. I wanted to confirm that you are atleast a non-lethal role because you took a position of leading the town in my eyes and I wasn't sure if anyone else would change to Sheriff. I didn't read the plan too intensively because I wanted to atleast get a night action out as Det before thinking about switching. Partly because I wasn't sure how changing role would occur exactly and when I read the setup again during the night I saw that the role change is submitted during the day so you can immediately use your new night action the night after if the change is successful which I wasn't exactly aware of. Thought I would have had to wait that night out if I changed my role, as if my night action was to change to a new role. Getting my point?

Anyway, I don't see a reason to distrust my claim. I was completely honest with you.

[Slaol]

he made some big plan and has yet to show his face.

Fuck you. I'm sick so have been sleeping/watching Walking Dead.

[NoctiZ]

Fuck you. I'm sick so have been sleeping/watching Walking Dead.

It's beginning. Slaol is mutating into a zombie.

[Slaol]

That wouldn't confirm you and Ganondorf as it would only confirm that you visited him. You could have drugged him for all we know. And Ganondorf could still be Mafia from my feedback alone. It only confirms that you both aren't Mafia together.

Besides, I didn't say I would follow it immediately. I wanted to confirm that you are atleast a non-lethal role because you took a position of leading the town in my eyes and I wasn't sure if anyone else would change to Sheriff. I didn't read the plan too intensively because I wanted to atleast get a night action out as Det before thinking about switching. Partly because I wasn't sure how changing role would occur exactly and when I read the setup again during the night I saw that the role change is submitted during the day so you can immediately use your new night action the night after if the change is successful which I wasn't exactly aware of. Thought I would have had to wait that night out if I changed my role, as if my night action was to change to a new role. Getting my point?

Anyway, I don't see a reason to distrust my claim. I was completely honest with you.

Seems a little defensive there faggot.

Ah, but does it confirm that you aren't Mafia? No, not at all. All of the information you latched onto was public already.
I said i'd be Blacksmith.
Ganondorf claimed his feedback.
No one else claimed Blacksmith.
Your information is entirely fakeable.

Azuriae is more scummy for declining an Article, but i'm coming for you.

[NoctiZ]

Seems a little defensive there faggot.

Ah, but does it confirm that you aren't Mafia? No, not at all. All of the information you latched onto was public already.
I said i'd be Blacksmith.
Ganondorf claimed his feedback.
No one else claimed Blacksmith.
Your information is entirely fakeable.

Azuriae is more scummy for declining an Article, but i'm coming for you.

lolol why are you insulting me? I thought you would be a bit more mature than that in a game where everyone knows eachother, atleast partly.

Did I say it would confirm me? No. I didn't even expect that I would be confirmed to you all now that I have claimed my feedback. I know that.

But there are other circumstances that are more suspicious than mine. Azuriae is one.
There's also the fact that I seem to be the only investigative role. Coroner may count as investigative but nothing I would have as the only investigative role. Does this not add to the likeliness of my claim?

[Azuriae]

Well then.

I guess not submitting an article will be my downfall. You guys simply can't think out of the box.

This is going to be a pretty short game.

Toodles!

[Sen]

Where does that leave Banshis?

That's why I never go with 24 hour days.
It's not enough if you have lurkers in your game.

[NoctiZ]

Well, my suspects for the moment are Banshis and Azuriae. Banshis because Coroner seems weird.

[NoctiZ]

I'm better gonna place my vote before I forget.

Azuriae

[Azuriae]

And you guys are gobbling Banshis' claim and he's being completely ignored.

This really isn't worth my time. :v

[Banshis]

Well, my suspects for the moment are Banshis and Azuriae. Banshis because Coroner seems weird.

Ofcourse it is weird. Unless the janitor didn't sanitize I don't know why I started as it. Maybe just to change out of it. Anyways I will give Slaol an article tonight since he is confirmed blacksmith unless it was 2 mafia working together.

[Azuriae]

Ofcourse it is weird. Unless the janitor didn't sanitize I don't know why I started as it. Maybe just to change out of it. Anyways I will give Slaol an article tonight since he is confirmed blacksmith unless it was 2 mafia working together.

Here's your CJ guys.
Remember to make him bite the Vigilante's bullet after you've lynched me.

[Banshis]

Here's your CJ guys.
Remember to make him bite the Vigilante's bullet after you've lynched me.

Lol trying to cause a mislynch? Person who said he denied an article and wanted Hypersniper dead since you were sure he was scum.

[Azuriae]

Lol trying to cause a mislynch? Person who said he denied an article and wanted Hypersniper dead since you were sure he was scum.

Where did I wanted Hypersniper dead so much? I only followed the train. And no, not trying to cause a mislynch, since you're the CJ. I'm getting lynched today anyway because this town is ridiculously close minded.

But you're obviously the CJ, and you know that you're outed when I flip.

[Banshis]

Where did I wanted Hypersniper dead so much? I only followed the train. And no, not trying to cause a mislynch, since you're the CJ. I'm getting lynched today anyway because this town is ridiculously close minded.

But you're obviously the CJ, and you know that you're outed when I flip.

lol scum saying "obvious" you know I am a town journalist. Anyways I don't like Noctiz's detective claim either since he checked slaol who could be confirmed once someone says he got a vest.

[Azuriae]

lol scum saying "obvious" you know I am a town journalist. Anyways I don't like Noctiz's detective claim either since he checked slaol who could be confirmed once someone says he got a vest.

Don't try to divert the subject, mister CJ.
Why did you decide to go with Slaol's plan after we completely dropped the subject and noone decided to go for it?

As others say, why go for the ''weakest'' town role?

[Sen]

Who did you visit, Banshis?

[Banshis]

Who did you visit, Banshis?

Since I started as a coroner and I turned into a journalist I wasn't allowed to put in a target for an article. The changes happen at start of night and since people you pick for an article has to be during day. I even asked if I could still let someone have an article.

[Banshis]

Since I started as a coroner and I turned into a journalist I wasn't allowed to put in a target for an article. The changes happen at start of night and since people you pick for an article has to be during day. I even asked if I could still let someone have an article.
So the answer is nobody.

[Azuriae]

Banshis, Bunny and Slaol.

Who wants to take a bet?

Come on, this game is boring. Where's everyone?
Montaron demands entertainment.

[Ganondorf]

Banshis, Bunny and Slaol.

Who wants to take a bet?

Come on, this game is boring. Where's everyone?
Montaron demands entertainment.

.... which means that Slaol HAS to be a Drug Dealer.

[Banshis]

Well this died down. Gonna give my article to Sen instead tonight since he hasn't been CC'd. Azuriae

[Azuriae]

Well this died down. Gonna give my article to Sen instead tonight since he hasn't been CC'd. Azuriae

Or you could just change from this ''useless'' role to a real power role that will help the town.

But oh, that's right. You're the Corrupt Journalist. Nevermind that.


Well played gents. Have fun!

[Azuriae]

(Well, not really ''well played''....

''HEY, THIS GUY HASN'T SUBMITTED AN ARTICLE.... BETTER THROW THE GAME FOR IT.''

Seriously. If I really was the CJ then I wouldn't have mentioned it, peabrains.)

[Banshis]

Or you could just change from this ''useless'' role to a real power role that will help the town.

But oh, that's right. You're the Corrupt Journalist. Nevermind that.


Well played gents. Have fun!

Actually I could change to escort then block Sen... Hmmm

And Still not the CJ. I was a coroner in the beginning so I changed.

[Ganondorf]

I'm not gonna lie: becoming a Journalist is pretty sketchy (especially when you can't even choose a target).

[Banshis]

I'm not gonna lie: becoming a Journalist is pretty sketchy (especially when you can't even choose a target).

Didn't know I couldn't pick a target. Found out when I tried to submit an article choice and I was told I couldn't because of OoO.

[Azuriae]

Hah!

unvote

Slaol, NoctiZ and Bunny.

[Banshis]

Changing to an Escort so Sen can expect a roleblock tonight.

[Sen]

What's the point of roleblocking a Citizen?
Banshis

First you go Journalist, now you say you're going to block a Citizen.

[Banshis]

What's the point of roleblocking a Citizen?
Banshis

First you go Journalist, now you say you're going to block a Citizen.

It confirms I changed to escort and I didn't fake block a mafia : /

[Slaol]

It confirms I changed to escort and I didn't fake block a mafia : /

Here in is why I selected Blacksmith and chose to give out Vests. It's directly trackable.
I question anyone that doesn't select to have feedback attached to an action. However in this case the only person that decided feedback was a plus also determined that he should deny publishing an article.

WHY DOES EVERYONE IN THIS GAME HATE HOST GIVEN FEEDBACK! SHIT!

[Slaol]

5 minutes to hammer the scum.

[Gerik]

Day is over. No one was lynched.

Roles List:

Citizen Hypersniper - lynched day 1
Citizen powerofdeath - killed by the counterfeiters night 1
Citizen
Middle Class
Middle Class
Middle Class
Middle Class

Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter

Living players:

1. Sen
2. Cryptonic
3. NoctiZ
4. Ganondorf
5. Bunny
6. Banshis
7. Azuriae
8. Slaol

Night 2 has begun. Day 3 will begin at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12am+cst+october+13).

[Gerik]

NoctiZ was found dead last night. He was the Sheriff.

Roles List:

Citizen Hypersniper - lynched day 1
Citizen powerofdeath - killed by the counterfeiters night 1
Citizen
Middle Class NoctiZ - killed by the counterfeiters night 2
Middle Class
Middle Class
Middle Class

Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter
Counterfeiter

Living players:

1. Sen
2. Cryptonic
3. Ganondorf
4. Bunny
5. Banshis
6. Azuriae
7. Slaol

Day 3 has begun. It will end at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12am+cst+october+14).

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